My Top 50 All-Time Greats!!!

[asero831]

Accomplishment, Overall Ability and Timeliness



1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Sam Langford
5. Harry Greb
6. Joe Louis
7. Ezzard Charles
8. Willie Pep
9. Roberto Duran
10. Archie Moore

11. Benny Leonard
12. Ray Leonard
13. Pernell Whitaker
14. Bob Fitzsimmons
15. Joe Gans
16. Carlos Monzon
17. Barney Ross
18. Jack Johnson
19. Marvin Hagler
20. Jimmy Wilde

21. Mickey Walker
22. Sandy Saddler
23. Manny Pacquiao
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Alexis Arguello
26. Rocky Marciano
27. Gene Tunney
28. Roy Jones Jr
29. Barbados Joe Walcott
30. Bernard Hopkins

31. Lennox Lewis
32. Evander Holyfield
33. Charley Burley
34. Eder Jofre
35. Tony Canzoneri
36. Emile Griffith
37. Jack Dempsey
38. Salvador Sanchez
39. Kid Gavilan
40. Thomas Hearns

41. Ike Williams
42. Larry Holmes
43. Floyd Mayweather Jr
44. Stanley Ketchel
45. Jimmy McLarnin
46. Tommy Loughran
47. Michael Spinks
48. Ruben Olivares
49. Jose Napoles
50. Fighting Harada

[portuge puncher]

you have pacquiao at 23, ahead of Ruben Olivares, Thomas Hearns, Jack Dempsey, Lennox Lewis, Roy Jones Jr, and Julio Cesar Chavez.

i know people love to criticize people's lists, but c'mon man.

[asero831]

do you know how hard is it for a flyweight/bantamweight champ to do well past 126...pac didnt only do well, he had success past 126

[portuge puncher]

do you know how hard is it for a flyweight/bantamweight champ to do well past 126...pac didnt only do well, he had success past 126

buddy, let me let you in on something, pac-man isnt a natural flywieght, he wieght that much when he was in his teens.

[asero831]

buddy, let me let you in on something, pac-man isnt a natural flywieght, he wieght that much when he was in his teens.

yes, he is not a natural flyweight...but he is so great that he manages to win the flyweight title...duran was never a 126 champ nor robinson a 135 champ in their teenage years

[portuge puncher]

yes, he is not a natural flyweight...but he is so great that he manages to win the flyweight title...duran was never a 126 champ nor robinson a 135 champ in their teenage years

and

who did he fight that was so good at that wieght,
yes he won a title, but he naturally got bigger.


how about hearns, he won titles from 147-195, and pacs way ahead of him.

it doesnt matter so much on wieght as it does on who they fought.
and the flywieght division is USALLYA the most empty, talent wise.

[talip bin osman]

you have pacquiao at 23, ahead of Ruben Olivares, Thomas Hearns, Jack Dempsey, Lennox Lewis, Roy Jones Jr, and Julio Cesar Chavez.

i know people love to criticize people's lists, but c'mon man.

heck... THE RING got khaosai galaxy ahead of hearns also man... why not MP?

doing sum credible list is not a casual thing to do man... its not sumthing like u take bert sugar's or ESPN's as a template then insert/cancel each nominees @ will without careful thought...

[asero831]

and

who did he fight that was so good at that wieght,
yes he won a title, but he naturally got bigger.


how about hearns, he won titles from 147-195, and pacs way ahead of him.

it doesnt matter so much on wieght as it does on who they fought.
and the flywieght division is USALLYA the most empty, talent wise.

but was hearns ever been a p4p king? he is only a 5 division champ from 147-175

[asero831]

and

who did he fight that was so good at that wieght,
yes he won a title, but he naturally got bigger.


how about hearns, he won titles from 147-195, and pacs way ahead of him.

it doesnt matter so much on wieght as it does on who they fought.
and the flywieght division is USALLYA the most empty, talent wise.

he beat sasakul who beat a p4p top 10 yuri of russia

[portuge puncher]

but was hearns ever been a p4p king? he is only a 5 division champ from 147-175

he wasnt P4P king because look who was around, SRL, and marvin hagler.
now tell me, has pac ever faced a fighter as good as those 2?

no, because there currently is none