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  • #41
    i really dont think that that factor has much to do with it when looking at the larger picture

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    • #42
      Hopkins wont get appreciated until he retires and we look back on his career. Give the guy a break. When all of the great middleweights die he will be up there chatting to Greb, La Motta, Zale, Cerdan, Hagler, Darcy, Ketchel, Fitzsimmons, Walker all the great middleweights hes on there level not necessarily above or below but he's on the level. Not in tnat order. Throw names i might have missed out on in the list. Please dont mention RJJ on the list.

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      • #43
        yeah, i think its just a matter of time after a fighter retires that he's remembered fondly or as "one of the greatest"

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        • #44
          he's at least top 5 for sure

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          • #45
            he stands on the coward side

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            • #46
              Originally posted by bubba1
              Among the other great middleweights in the history of the games based upon tonight's win?
              hopkins is an all time great..in a great division..robinson greb monzon ketchell cerdan walker lamotta hagler are some i rate over hopkins..in the top 12 or so..and thats not a shame by any means..hes a great in a division of greats .

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              • #47
                Hopkins is definitely an all-time great at middleweight. I don't know about the top one ever... Hagler was better, IMO, but Hop could be right up there. He could be thrown into an argument with anybody, pfp, in the middleweight division.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Sir_Jose View Post
                  Top 4 all time

                  Greb
                  Hagler
                  Monzon
                  Hopkins


                  he was top 4 before tonight anyway

                  you cant argue with winning. The guy has ruled the division for 10 years and has made 19 defenses
                  - -I ain't "you," so gonna tell you Poppy don't belong on your list.

                  Greb, Marv, and Monzon were truly great.

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                  • #49
                    He stands in the conventional stance. Hagler southpaw.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by realtim View Post
                      Hopkins wont get appreciated until he retires and we look back on his career. Give the guy a break. When all of the great middleweights die he will be up there chatting to Greb, La Motta, Zale, Cerdan, Hagler, Darcy, Ketchel, Fitzsimmons, Walker all the great middleweights hes on there level not necessarily above or below but he's on the level. Not in tnat order. Throw names i might have missed out on in the list. Please dont mention RJJ on the list.
                      - -Roy didn't go out flat on his back squalling like a baby for his bottle, Popkins did.

                      Mo' shame for the shameless.

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