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  • Originally posted by Tomjas View Post

    Btw, the US is the biggest polluter in history

    That's how it got rich
    Yup, we sold pollution and got rich.

    Hyperbole is not the best way to state your case.

    I noticed you left out the fact we aren't the world's biggest polluter any longer, yet the one who is got a sweet deal in that stupid Paris agreement. They didn't have to meet goals until 2030. We had to by 2025.

    But we're the problem.

    You know, maybe instead of hating on us your nation too could be rich if you followed our examples.

    Or keep on hating and whining about what we do.

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    • Originally posted by Tomjas View Post
      You obviously don't understand the basics of it

      NOBODY is regulating anybody else

      Each country voluntarily set its own targets and there are no penalties if you miss

      Btw, the US is the biggest polluter in history

      That's how it got rich
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      Pollution isn't how America got rich.. that's absurd..

      And we are the biggest polluters historically only because we are light years ahead of third worlds in terms of development and have over a 100 year head start..
      And that is the reason why we cannot join the agreement where china is not a part of or not commiting into helping as well

      Theyre going to go ahead of us if we do

      Our factories are moving to china for a reason ffs

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      • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
        Pollution isn't how America got rich.. that's absurd..

        And we are the biggest polluters historically only because we are light years ahead of third worlds in terms of development and have over a 100 year head start..
        The foundation of America's wealth is industry

        By today's standards, those industries (e.g. Pittsburgh steel) were filthy

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        • Originally posted by DoubleLeftH00k View Post
          And that is the reason why we cannot join the agreement where china is not a part of or not commiting into helping as well

          Theyre going to go ahead of us if we do

          Our factories are moving to china for a reason ffs
          China is part of the agreement and is making big strides in cutting its emissions.

          The problem is that you cannot simply shut down hundreds of dirty power stations overnight (as that would leave a billion people without power) so they need time to build new ones

          BTW, your factories are moving to China because it is cheaper to make stuff there

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          • Originally posted by Tomjas View Post
            BTW, your factories are moving to China because it is cheaper to make stuff there
            Correct.

            All these ridiculous regulations we put on our factories make it alot cheaper to manufacture in places like China.

            Trump is trying to remedy that problem.

            You're catching on!

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            • Originally posted by Tomjas View Post
              China is part of the agreement and is making big strides in cutting its emissions.

              The problem is that you cannot simply shut down hundreds of dirty power stations overnight (as that would leave a billion people without power) so they need time to build new ones

              BTW, your factories are moving to China because it is cheaper to make stuff there
              Business tax, regulations u know nothing about the reason why they moved

              And nope China as being a part of it has not done sheet

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              • Originally posted by DoubleLeftH00k View Post
                Business tax, regulations u know nothing about the reason why they moved

                And nope China as being a part of it has not done sheet
                China reinveted slavery.

                You can have 0% tax on businesses and you couldnt come close to matching the costs and salaries that third world countries can offer.

                Thats why they move.

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                • Originally posted by Tomjas View Post
                  You obviously don't understand the basics of it

                  NOBODY is regulating anybody else

                  Each country voluntarily set its own targets and there are no penalties if you miss

                  Btw, the US is the biggest polluter in history

                  That's how it got rich
                  the basis of it is that US taxpayers have to pay a tribute each year to third worlders so they can maybe control their pollution, while the loony left try to pass more regulations in the US. of course you think this is a good deal since you aren't American.

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                  • Originally posted by AllBoxingAD View Post
                    China reinveted slavery.

                    You can have 0% tax on businesses and you couldnt come close to matching the costs and salaries that third world countries can offer.

                    Thats why they move.
                    Lmao!!! That talking point has been refuted long ago.

                    If China is only paying slave wages, can you explain the skyrocketing demand in China for expensive consumer items like luxury American cars?

                    Their streets went from being clogged with bicycles to being clogged with nice, new cars. And that didnt happen on slave wages. So I'm dying to hear your reply.

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                    • Originally posted by 1bad65 View Post
                      Lmao!!! That talking point has been refuted long ago.

                      If China is only paying slave wages, can you explain the skyrocketing demand in China for expensive consumer items like luxury American cars?

                      Their streets went from being clogged with bicycles to being clogged with nice, new cars. And that didnt happen on slave wages. So I'm dying to hear your reply.
                      The US is losing manufacturing jobs to China.

                      The people buying those luxury cars arent the ones working in factories.

                      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1327413.html

                      https://www.bls.gov/news.release/ichcc.nr0.htm

                      Obviously, manufacturing jobs arent the only jobs that exist in China.

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