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Originally posted by jreckoning View PostMaybe arum has dirt on Pac....
The plot thickens.
But I can't believe Arum is like some Svengali mofo hypnotizing him.
How many people a day must interact with Pac. Are they all Arum Zombies or something?
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Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Posthave u seen the people that surround pac? they are all yes men they just want to make him happy all they want is pac to like them so they can have a place in his circle
Sure, yeah I am ok with his immediate dummies wanting to please, but come on one of his relatvies, brothers, a friend of Jinkee, I mean someone has to have informed him about what could be up.
It's not like him and Arum are always smooth sailing.
I mean I just can't go along with the naive bit. Bad choices sometimes sure, but a complete fool and tool in the situation, I can't see it.
With this much money at stake, someone is going to be telling him every angle of every story.
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Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Posthave u seen the people that surround pac? they are all yes men they just want to make him happy all they want is pac to like them so they can have a place in his circleLast edited by PACsmash; 01-18-2012, 10:19 PM.
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Originally posted by jreckoning View PostSure, yeah I am ok with his immediate dummies wanting to please, but come on one of his relatvies, brothers, a friend of Jinkee, I mean someone has to have informed him about what could be up.
It's not like him and Arum are always smooth sailing.
I mean I just can't go along with the naive bit. Bad choices sometimes sure, but a complete fool and tool in the situation, I can't see it.
With this much money at stake, someone is going to be telling him every angle of every story.
and something must have prompted pacquiao to hire vision quest so someone probably has told him something
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I'm not falling for the maybe bob has dirt on manny. If anyone it would be roach and ariza. Those 2 are the one that actually works with manny. I honestly think manny knows but doesn't care since he's still getting a piece of it. Just think about it the dude came from nothing and is now the richest person in his own country do u think he would care? I think manny feels like since Bob does all the match making and promotion and all manny does is show up and fight which is something that he has been doing since his early teens he probably just feels like its ok as long as he's still getting paid and getting paid way more than if he was still fighting in the Philipines.Last edited by PACsmash; 01-18-2012, 10:27 PM.
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Originally posted by ИATAS206 View PostI don't know, I think pac is extremely naive. Even before Floyd was ever a potential opponent, I always said the one flaw with pac was how he's so trustworthy and easily manipulated. He has like a 400 people posse that just leach off him, he signed every contract put in front of his face, he does a lot of stupid things in that regard. He doesn't realize that Michael Koncz was connected to Bob Arum, etc. Great person but definitely naive, imo.
I don't think pac fears any fighter, I think he has a warriors heart.
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Originally posted by jreckoning View PostMaybe arum has dirt on Pac....
The plot thickens.
But I can't believe Arum is like some Svengali mofo hypnotizing him.
How many people a day must interact with Pac. Are they all Arum Zombies or something?
The only very, speculation I and could make is that since Arum was a tax lawyer, that he and MannyP may be involved in a deep tax fraud. But this would make Pacquiao many more millions, and Arum is too clever to involve himself in anything like this.
I don't believe for a second, the "Pacquiao is broke" rumours that the conspiracy crazies dribble about. IF, and it's a big "if", he gets advances, it would be because he allowed the bank account he uses to be depleted. But I'd think that he likely doesn't handle money, but may use an aide to see to the bills. He wouldn't be fumbling in his pocket for loose cash. That's the way big movers operate.
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