Originally posted by them_apples
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1) Liston was shot. Everyone knew that. Even then Ali JUST barely escaped him. Really, he was as bad a match-up for old Liston as Liston was for Patterson. Karma.
2) You're writing off Young. He was very good - almost great. He just came of age when you had to be stellar.
Young held it together. Larry would hold it together even better. He also would hit back harder than Ali. He lacked Ali's strength and speed, but his arsenal was more impressive. He didn't have as many holes, either.
Really, too many excuses are made for Foreman. Clancy, did say George was mentally broken. But he kinda revealed how easy it was to break George. Foreman always seemed to struggled with slippery opponents (peralta). It's likely even if he beats Holmes once, they'd meat again and Holmes would pull it out.
Shavers and Cooney weren't Foreman, but Holmes clearly showed his whiskers and ability to drag big punchers into deep waters. So while I concede he'll pay a greater price than Ali and Young, he too - eventually - gets his hand raised as they did.
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