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Originally posted by *Khan
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squeal your a bs legend, you could come up with an wayyyyyyyyyyyyy funnier response then that.Comment
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Honestly I thought for a second there he was gonna put something in my anus while I was doing the squats, lol. I was told to do 5 and every single one of those 5 times I was bracing for something going up my anus lol.Originally posted by AL YANKAB*TCH View PostComment
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As soon as he asked for your id you should break out your cell phone, inform him that this is no longer a private conversation, hit the record button and ask him "why are you harrasing me?"...if he continus to harras you and touches you in any way call 911 and tell them that there is an officer harrasing and assulting you and you have it on tape.The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and Warrants shall not be issued, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
in order to legally record him......first off you have to inform him that the conversation is not a pivate one as long as the cop has any reason to assume the conversation is private you are not allowed to record his voice. if you inform him that this is a public conversation and he should choose his words wisely before you record him there is nothing he can do......if he takes your phone request that you are shown exactlly in his crime law code book that all officers must carry in their patrol car where it gives the officer the right of theft. and if he asks you what gives you the right to record him inform that you can record any public conversation.
wait.....are you mexican and in arizona?
also looking around it seems like you could avoid the whole situation just by asking "am i free to go or am i being detained" if you are free to go then leave if you are being detained ask why you are being detained as they must have reasonable suspicision to detain you.
http://flexyourrights.org/faq/When_do_I_have_to_show_IDLast edited by Spartacus Sully; 03-18-2011, 12:36 AM.Comment
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I was just doing things on the fly lol and I am a Mexican but in Chicago, lol. American citizen though.Originally posted by Spartacus Sully View PostComment
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Originally posted by *Khan View Posthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_an...80.9D_statutesConsensual
At any time, police may approach a person and ask questions. The objective may simply be a friendly conversation; however, the police also may suspect involvement in a crime, but lack “specific and articulable facts”[4] that would justify a detention or arrest, and hope to obtain these facts from the questioning. The person approached is not required to identify herself or answer any other questions, and may leave at any time.[5] Police are not usually required to tell a person that she is free to decline to answer questions and go about her business;[6] however, a person can usually determine whether the interaction is consensual by asking, “Am I free to go?”[7][8]
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A person is detained when circumstances are such that a reasonable person would believe he is not free to leave.[9]
Police may briefly detain a person if they have reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime. Many state laws explicitly grant this authority; in Terry v. Ohio, the U.S. Supreme Court established it in all jurisdictions, regardless of explicit mention in state or local laws. Police may conduct a limited search for weapons (known as a “frisk”) if they reasonably suspect that the person to be detained may be armed and dangerous.
Police may question a person detained in a Terry stop, but in general, the detainee is not required to answer.[10] However, many states have “stop and identify” laws that explicitly require a person detained under the conditions of Terry to identify himself to police, and in some cases, provide additional information.
Before Hiibel, it was unresolved whether a detainee could be arrested and prosecuted for refusing to identify himself. Authority on this issue was split among the federal circuit courts of appeal,[11] and the U.S. Supreme Court twice expressly refused to address the question.[12] In Hiibel, the Court held, in a 5–4 decision, that a Nevada “stop and identify” law did not violate the United States Constitution. The Court’s opinion implied that a detainee was not required to produce written identification, but could satisfy the requirement merely by stating his name. Some “stop and identify” laws do not require that a detainee identify himself, but allow refusal to do so to be considered along with other factors in determining whether there is probable cause to arrest. In some states, providing a false name is an offense.[13]
As of November 2010, the Supreme Court has not addressed the validity of requirements that a detainee provide information other than his name.
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Just so u know those laws only apply to white people. If u a minority all that **** goes out the window because minorities suspicious in a cops eyes. And God forbid u make a sudden move, you may get shot. Happens all the timeOriginally posted by Spartacus Sully View PostComment
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