Originally posted by Vegemil
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Let's get this **** straight. Size had very little to do with Lomo's win over Rigo
Collapse
-
-
-
Originally posted by SkillspayBills View PostSo you give Floyd full credit for beating JMM, yes? He won based on skill.
I myself always gave Floyd a little credit for that, but nothing crazy. Gotta put it all in perspective. Does Lomachenko deserve credit for this? A smidge. But some of these cats are trying to act like Vasyl beat prime Rigo at Guillermo’s best weight. It’s insane.
Comment
-
Originally posted by SkillspayBills View PostSo you give Floyd full credit for beating JMM, yes? He won based on skill.
Comment
-
Originally posted by SkillspayBills View PostSo you give Floyd full credit for beating JMM, yes? He won based on skill.
Comment
-
Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View PostMaybe, maybe not. We’ll never know. That bout proved nothing. These are two athletes who passed each other in the night. Rigo won his second gold medal four years before a Lomo won his first. Think about that. That’s the age gap. Then they were never in the same weight division. Vasyl was always in the higher weight categories. There’s just no comparison. Like I said, maybe you’re right, and all things being equal, Lomachenko is better. But maybe you’re wrong.
I just think as you said, he was always the bigger younger dude, and the style of accurate volume punching with different angles really is a bad style for Rigo
But hey, we shall never truely know and it's all speculation. So definitely respect your opinion.. who's too say it's not trueLast edited by kingstip9; 12-11-2017, 11:08 PM.
Comment
-
Originally posted by kingstip9 View PostHmm I like your points, but I definitley am not saying lomachenko is definitley "better"
I just think as you said, he was always the bigger younger dude, and the style of accurate volume punching with different angles really is a bad style for Rigo
But hey, we shall never truely know and it's all speculation. So definitely respect your opinion.. who's too say it's not true
Comment
-
Originally posted by richardt View PostWhen was the last time a 37 year old had 17 fights and on top of that had not taken any real punishment in those 17 fights????? Again, chronological age and boxing age are not the same. You look at noticeable slippage and punishment to determine if age is a factor and Rigo did not have either of those. Many fighters have won big fights in their 30's and 40's against younger fighters. And there are a number of fighters who came off layoffs of over a year, even almost 3 years with not a single round and won fights and at higher divisions. Again, it is VERY OBVIOUS that the skill sets of Lom and Rigo are on two entirely different levels. Does Rigo use angles like Lom??? Throw punches in bunches like Lom??? Turn a fighter as often as Lom??? Have a right hook???? Rigo doesnt have the tool set of Lom, period.
And Rigo would have been beaten by all those younger fighters he fought and the reason he wasnt was because of skills!
Your right Loma is a great fighter maybe one of the best in his generation but in 10 years do you think he will be beating P4P guys in their prime. I don't know but the history of boxing tells me probably not
I was impressed with Loma because of how injury or not he turned off Rigos will to continue which to me is impressive but I just think Age , size and inactivity played a factor. If you don't think so cool
But how many elite small guys Stay near their peak when they approach 40 in the history of the sport and beat P4P guys in their prime , You can probably count on 1 hand the fighters that did if at all
Loma deserves props but let's be real about the situation
Comment
-
Originally posted by richardt View PostThe reason why anyone had issues with Floyd was not the weight, it was the failure to make the agreed upon weight. Thats where the controversy became fuel for discrediting Floyd. But the fact is, Floyd and JMM could fight at any agreeable weight and Floyd beats JMM 10 out of 10 times. Difference in skills.
He didnt beat JMM, he put on a show, same way he did against opponents who were bigger and younger than JMM. JMM is just an opponent, who gaf about his weight or anything else. Mayweather deserves all the credit in the world for proving to the people that he was the sharpest fighter in the history of the sport. That fight was one piece of evidence!
Comment
Comment