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  • #21
    Originally posted by Chunk View Post
    I ain't got a problem with your opinion mate but an awful lot of people on here are saying Kessler was 'Hype' and saying stuff like, 'I told you Kessler was overrated'.

    So in hindsight, Kessler was overrated from the start so this wasn't a great win for Kessler? If so, how does this win or performance make it a P4P performance or P4P in fact.

    People on here think they can have **** both ways on but they can't. Sorry.
    Gotcha I said it was a pound for pound type of performance. In the sense that he dominated a really good fighter. I don't know if he's pound for pound. If he wins the tourney then yes certainly he would be.

    As far as the Kessler thing goes I thought he was going to win tonight. And I do think that he's a very good fighter.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Shadows View Post
      Boxingscene P4P list, this is from before the Pacquiao fight so Cotto will probably get moved out and Ward put in.

      1) Manny Pacquiao
      2) Floyd Mayweather
      3) Bernard Hopkins
      4) Shane Mosley
      5) Paul Williams
      6) Chad Dawson
      7) Miguel Cotto
      8) Juan Manuel Marquez
      9) Ivan Calderon
      10) Hozumi Hasegawa

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      • #23
        My P4P top ten:

        Manny Pacquiao
        Paul Williams (He's been more active than Hopkins and Shane)
        Shane Mosley
        Bernard Hopkins
        Floyd Mayweather
        JMM
        Roman Gonzalez
        Timothy Bradley
        Chad Dawson
        Andre Ward

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Iceta View Post
          My P4P top ten:

          Manny Pacquiao
          Paul Williams (He's been more active than Hopkins and Shane)
          Shane Mosley
          Bernard Hopkins
          Floyd Mayweather
          JMM
          Roman Gonzalez
          Timothy Bradley
          Chad Dawson
          Andre Ward

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Six Shooter View Post
            Boxingscene P4P list, this is from before the Pacquiao fight so Cotto will probably get moved out and Ward put in.

            1) Manny Pacquiao
            2) Floyd Mayweather
            3) Bernard Hopkins
            4) Shane Mosley
            5) Paul Williams
            6) Chad Dawson
            7) Miguel Cotto
            8) Juan Manuel Marquez
            9) Ivan Calderon
            10) Hozumi Hasegawa
            I doubt it, but anything is possible.

            I believe they had Abraham on the outside looking in, so he may get it.

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            • #26
              Ward has a ways to go before you can say this guy is one of the top 10 best fighters in the world. Sure, he looked like one tonight but come on, you don't get on the list after one fight. If he wins the tourney in the fashion he fought like tonight there is no doubt he should be on it and towards the top half of the list to boot. A long ways to go before we get to that point though. What we can say is Andre Ward probably has the brightest future of any young American fighter. Kirkland, Porter, Jacobs, Dirrell or whoever truly don't have the skill set that a guy like Ward brings to the ring.

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              • #27
                Arthur Abraham should be in the top 10 p4p.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Six Shooter View Post
                  I need more details and elaboration.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Iceta View Post
                    My P4P top ten:

                    Manny Pacquiao
                    Paul Williams (He's been more active than Hopkins and Shane)
                    Shane Mosley
                    Bernard Hopkins
                    Floyd Mayweather
                    JMM
                    Roman Gonzalez
                    Timothy Bradley
                    Chad Dawson
                    Andre Ward
                    I'd drop Gonzalez, Ward, and Bradley.

                    I'd look at Hasegawa, Abraham, and Calderon.

                    There's others too.

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                    • #30
                      I said after about the third round that if he KO's Kessler, he deserves a top 10 P4P spot. He's on my list.

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