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  • #31
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    I don't have a great scale of greatness on hand.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
      you just answered a question with a question. Just saying.... its hard to take someone serious when you dont have facts to back up a claim. If its your opinion thats cool. But i think you were asked for the facts or at the least to know its just your opinion!

      I guess you and Puga owe me a Patawad or Paumanahin or whatever your language states sorry

      http://bwaa.org/flyer.pdf

      BOXING WRITERS ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA
      86th Annual Awards Dinner
      Friday, May 6, 2011, 8 PM
      MGM Grand Las Vegas, 3
      rd
      Floor Ballroom
      3799 Las Vegas Boulevard South, Las Vegas, Nevada
      Honoring
      SERGIO MARTINEZ
      The Sugar Ray Robinson Award
      FIGHTER OF THE YEAR
      FREDDIE ROACH
      The Eddie Futch Award
      TRAINER OF THE YEAR
      KHAN- MAIDANA
      Amir Khan and Marcos Maidana
      The Ali-Frazier Award
      FIGHT OF THE YEAR
      MICKY WARD
      The James A. Farley Award
      HONESTY AND INTEGRITY IN BOXING
      BILL CAPLAN
      The Marvin Kohn "Good Guy" Award
      ROBERT GUERRERO
      The Bill Crawford Award
      COURAGE IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY
      JACK OBERMAYER
      The John F. X. Condon Award
      LONG AND MERITORIOUS SERVICE
      PETE HAMILL
      The A. J. Liebling Award
      OUTSTANDING BOXING WRITING
      STEVE FARHOOD
      The Nat Fleischer Award
      EXCELLENCE IN BOXING JOURNALISM
      ****tails: 8 PM
      Dinner and Awards: 9:30 PM
      Tickets are $200 per person*/ $2,000 per table of ten
      (Purchasers of a BWAA dinner ticket will also receive a complimentary ticket
      for the Top Rank boxing show on Friday, May 6 at 5 PM at
      Mandalay Bay’s South Pacific Ballroom
      )
      A LIMITED NUMBER OF SPECIAL VIP TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE
      $400 per person / $4,000 per table of ten
      *Includes Premium Seating at Dinner
      *Private ****tail Reception with Honorees
      *Special gift
      Payment may be made via check, credit card, money order, or PayPal
      For reservations and ad journal information, contact:


      IS THAT A FACT OR NOT???? When did GBP do these deals with the BWAA?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin View Post
        I guess you and Puga owe me a Patawad or Paumanahin or whatever your language states sorry

        http://bwaa.org/flyer.pdf

        BOXING WRITERS ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA
        86th Annual Awards Dinner
        Friday, May 6, 2011, 8 PM
        MGM Grand Las Vegas, 3
        rd
        Floor Ballroom
        3799 Las Vegas Boulevard South, Las Vegas, Nevada
        Honoring
        SERGIO MARTINEZ
        The Sugar Ray Robinson Award
        FIGHTER OF THE YEAR
        FREDDIE ROACH
        The Eddie Futch Award
        TRAINER OF THE YEAR
        KHAN- MAIDANA
        Amir Khan and Marcos Maidana
        The Ali-Frazier Award
        FIGHT OF THE YEAR
        MICKY WARD
        The James A. Farley Award
        HONESTY AND INTEGRITY IN BOXING
        BILL CAPLAN
        The Marvin Kohn "Good Guy" Award
        ROBERT GUERRERO
        The Bill Crawford Award
        COURAGE IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY
        JACK OBERMAYER
        The John F. X. Condon Award
        LONG AND MERITORIOUS SERVICE
        PETE HAMILL
        The A. J. Liebling Award
        OUTSTANDING BOXING WRITING
        STEVE FARHOOD
        The Nat Fleischer Award
        EXCELLENCE IN BOXING JOURNALISM
        ****tails: 8 PM
        Dinner and Awards: 9:30 PM
        Tickets are $200 per person*/ $2,000 per table of ten
        (Purchasers of a BWAA dinner ticket will also receive a complimentary ticket
        for the Top Rank boxing show on Friday, May 6 at 5 PM at
        Mandalay Bay’s South Pacific Ballroom
        )
        A LIMITED NUMBER OF SPECIAL VIP TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE
        $400 per person / $4,000 per table of ten
        *Includes Premium Seating at Dinner
        *Private ****tail Reception with Honorees
        *Special gift
        Payment may be made via check, credit card, money order, or PayPal
        For reservations and ad journal information, contact:


        IS THAT A FACT OR NOT???? When did GBP do these deals with the BWAA?

        this proves what exactly?...

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        • #34
          WHere is my apology???? BTW, Puga or Puta Ko I don't need Google, this is Haglersteelchin, ask the history section if i rely on google.


          Tell me where does an independent writing organization give complimentary tickets to ONE promotional event. This corroborates my whole argument.

          Gee??? If I buy a ticket to your dinner i get complimentary tickets to a Top Rank event? No collusion, no conflict of interest???

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          • #35
            Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin View Post
            I guess you and Puga owe me a Patawad or Paumanahin or whatever your language states sorry

            http://bwaa.org/flyer.pdf

            BOXING WRITERS ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA
            86th Annual Awards Dinner
            Friday, May 6, 2011, 8 PM
            MGM Grand Las Vegas, 3
            rd
            Floor Ballroom
            3799 Las Vegas Boulevard South, Las Vegas, Nevada
            Honoring
            SERGIO MARTINEZ
            The Sugar Ray Robinson Award
            FIGHTER OF THE YEAR
            FREDDIE ROACH
            The Eddie Futch Award
            TRAINER OF THE YEAR
            KHAN- MAIDANA
            Amir Khan and Marcos Maidana
            The Ali-Frazier Award
            FIGHT OF THE YEAR
            MICKY WARD
            The James A. Farley Award
            HONESTY AND INTEGRITY IN BOXING
            BILL CAPLAN
            The Marvin Kohn "Good Guy" Award
            ROBERT GUERRERO
            The Bill Crawford Award
            COURAGE IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY
            JACK OBERMAYER
            The John F. X. Condon Award
            LONG AND MERITORIOUS SERVICE
            PETE HAMILL
            The A. J. Liebling Award
            OUTSTANDING BOXING WRITING
            STEVE FARHOOD
            The Nat Fleischer Award
            EXCELLENCE IN BOXING JOURNALISM
            ****tails: 8 PM
            Dinner and Awards: 9:30 PM
            Tickets are $200 per person*/ $2,000 per table of ten
            (Purchasers of a BWAA dinner ticket will also receive a complimentary ticket
            for the Top Rank boxing show on Friday, May 6 at 5 PM at
            Mandalay Bay’s South Pacific Ballroom
            )
            A LIMITED NUMBER OF SPECIAL VIP TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE
            $400 per person / $4,000 per table of ten
            *Includes Premium Seating at Dinner
            *Private ****tail Reception with Honorees
            *Special gift
            Payment may be made via check, credit card, money order, or PayPal
            For reservations and ad journal information, contact:


            IS THAT A FACT OR NOT???? When did GBP do these deals with the BWAA?

            I dont see the bias here!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by puga View Post
              this proves what exactly?...
              I have shown known better that a moron as yourself that can't add 1 plus 1 didn't have the essential brain cell activity to understand what a conflict of interest meant.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
                I dont see the bias here!
                Of course not. That would require average or better IQ that you don't have. You are forgiven.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin View Post
                  I have shown known better that a moron as yourself that can't add 1 plus 1 didn't have the essential brain cell activity to understand what a conflict of interest meant.
                  that proved a conflict of interest ?...coz i can make similar **** up and put golden boy in it and claim the opposite..

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by HaglerSteelChin View Post
                    WHere is my apology???? BTW, Puga or Puta Ko I don't need Google, this is Haglersteelchin, ask the history section if i rely on google.


                    Tell me where does an independent writing organization give complimentary tickets to ONE promotional event. This corroborates my whole argument.

                    Gee??? If I buy a ticket to your dinner i get complimentary tickets to a Top Rank event? No collusion, no conflict of interest???
                    i would apolopgize if you can provide me simple things im asking . credible proof is all im asking and not a single one was provided...

                    and i dont give a **** if youre hagler****chin or whatever you call yourself ...you bull**** me , im gonna be asking for credible proof..thats just the way it is...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      I perhaps wouldn't have him in my Top 10, if I did, at the very bottom is where he'd be.

                      But realistically I'd say he's Top 15 range. But I wouldn't be mad if someone were to have him in the Top 10, which was more my point.
                      Look at his last three fights:

                      Katsidis - Guerrero was hurt to the body and looked ready to go and the ref saved him
                      Aydin - the win now looks very average indeed with the limited Karass beating him
                      Berto - lost to Ortiz in first step up, arguably was losing to Zaveck and lost to Guerrero

                      Good fighter with a lot of guts for stepping up but he's not a top 10 and I don't think he's a top 15 either, maybe top 20-25

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