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I have inverted comma's above the term 'Journeyman' for good reason. In today's game, a fighter with 10+ loss's is usually considered a journeyman. Especially if they have 10+ loss's in their best years.
Kid Cocoa, retired with almost 60, yes sixty loss's. Losing to great, average and poor fighters across that long list of loss's.
Amongst those list of loss's are the names; Archie Moore, Charley Burley, Holman Williams x2, Kid Azteca x4, Battling Battalino and Lou Ambers.
Obviously, those 10 undertandable loss's jump at you amongst the close to 60 and show you the man was willing to fight anybody and everybody.
The more concerning loss's are the stacked one's to the likes of Harry Alexanian, Tony Martin, Frankie Britt, Harry Carlton and Andre Jessurun as well as many many others.
The most confusing part of it is; is amongst all the great, average and frankly poor fighters Kid Cocoa lost to, his series with HOF'er Holman Williams is possibly the most intruiging series I have ever layed my eyes on.
Accross 13 fights with Holman Williams, "Journeyman" Kid Cocoa, managed to beat him 8 times, yes, 8 times. Losing 3 times and drawing twice. Kid Cocoa, with almost 60 loss's managed to go 8-3-2 with a great fighter in Holman Williams.
Question is; How is that even possible? This is one thing that has confused me more than ever.
A fighter deals back to back loss's with Frankie Britt and manages to beat Holman Williams 8 times. Incredible.
Ontop of that his only other great win is a win over Eddie Booker. Which in it's own right is an exceptional achievement. But is obviously dwarfed by the drastic accomplishment of beating Williams 8 times. (!)
Other details about Kid Cocoa are he allegedly sparred with Kid Chocolate in his early years and sparred with Sugar Ray Robinson in his late years.
So he shared a ring with; Williams, Booker, Battalino, Ambers, Burley, Moore, Chocolate and Sugar Ray Robinson. That is one "Journeyman" I wouldn't have liked to cross paths with!
The question is; Is there another "Journeyman" as accomplished and has a resume with;
1. The quality of loss's that he has (Who he lost to)
2. Resume of actual wins (!)
Compared to Kid Cocoa?
I honestly, don't think so.
*Edit - The fighter you make your argument for to be a more accomplished 'journeyman' than Cocoa can not be in the HOF.
Kid Cocoa, retired with almost 60, yes sixty loss's. Losing to great, average and poor fighters across that long list of loss's.
Amongst those list of loss's are the names; Archie Moore, Charley Burley, Holman Williams x2, Kid Azteca x4, Battling Battalino and Lou Ambers.
Obviously, those 10 undertandable loss's jump at you amongst the close to 60 and show you the man was willing to fight anybody and everybody.
The more concerning loss's are the stacked one's to the likes of Harry Alexanian, Tony Martin, Frankie Britt, Harry Carlton and Andre Jessurun as well as many many others.
The most confusing part of it is; is amongst all the great, average and frankly poor fighters Kid Cocoa lost to, his series with HOF'er Holman Williams is possibly the most intruiging series I have ever layed my eyes on.
Accross 13 fights with Holman Williams, "Journeyman" Kid Cocoa, managed to beat him 8 times, yes, 8 times. Losing 3 times and drawing twice. Kid Cocoa, with almost 60 loss's managed to go 8-3-2 with a great fighter in Holman Williams.
Question is; How is that even possible? This is one thing that has confused me more than ever.
A fighter deals back to back loss's with Frankie Britt and manages to beat Holman Williams 8 times. Incredible.
Ontop of that his only other great win is a win over Eddie Booker. Which in it's own right is an exceptional achievement. But is obviously dwarfed by the drastic accomplishment of beating Williams 8 times. (!)
Other details about Kid Cocoa are he allegedly sparred with Kid Chocolate in his early years and sparred with Sugar Ray Robinson in his late years.
So he shared a ring with; Williams, Booker, Battalino, Ambers, Burley, Moore, Chocolate and Sugar Ray Robinson. That is one "Journeyman" I wouldn't have liked to cross paths with!
The question is; Is there another "Journeyman" as accomplished and has a resume with;
1. The quality of loss's that he has (Who he lost to)
2. Resume of actual wins (!)
Compared to Kid Cocoa?
I honestly, don't think so.
*Edit - The fighter you make your argument for to be a more accomplished 'journeyman' than Cocoa can not be in the HOF.
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