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  • #51
    Originally posted by TRTboy View Post
    A power punch is worth more than a jab. This is professional boxing not no outdated amateur point boxing.

    GGG was a lot busier and more consistent but Canelo landed the more eye catching heavier shots. It was a close fight and a draw IMO was the right decision.
    This is boxing not a fencing match!!

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    • #52
      Originally posted by revelated View Post
      Nope. Paraphrased, not made up. You should recognize Mayweather/Pacquiao from Skip Bayless, in fact.
      Really and you listen to anything Skip Bayless says? That guy is a moron. He said Mcgregor would KO Floyd, he knows nothing about boxing

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      • #53
        Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
        Really and you listen to anything Skip Bayless says? That guy is a moron. He said Mcgregor would KO Floyd, he knows nothing about boxing
        He also said Manny lost against Jeff "The Hornet" Horn. Which I agree with.

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        • #54
          Updated, as the flip-flops continue.

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          • #55
            Charlo/Korobov, yet more jab flip-flopping

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            • #56
              Originally posted by revelated View Post
              Mayweather/Pacquiao: "Nah bruh, you can't win a fight with just a jab"/"The pitty pat punches, it's not enough! It's not enough to win the fight!"

              Garcia/Thurman: "Garcia won that, all Thurman did was jab and run"

              Holyfield/Valuev: "The right man won, all Holyfield did was jab"

              Canelo/Golovkin 1: "ggg's only consistent success was his jab, no body shots, very few actual clean shots to the head"

              Wilder/Fury: "Fury lost those rounds, you can't win by jabbing and feinting"

              Yet...

              Canelo/Golovkin 2: "Golovkin was hitting Canelo with the jab all night long, he got robbed!"

              Klitschko/Fury: "Klitschko won that fight, his jab controlled it!"

              Golovkin/Jacobs: "Golovkin clearly controlled the fight with his jab, that's why he won doe"

              Eubank/Saunders: "Eubank got exposed, Saunders' jab was in Eubank's face all night long"

              Mayweather/McGregor: "McGregor dominated the first four rounds with his jab"

              Charlo/Korobov: "they almost ROBBED Charlo, he couldn't miss with the jab"

              Make up your mind. Either an effective jab wins the fight or it doesn't.
              Great post. In life people see what they wanna see and hear what they wanna hear. You ever notice where an obvious call in any sport is questioned by diehard fans of the team that the call went against. It's the same in boxing. If you truly value the jab then it's valued in every fight. Typical biased fans. That B.S will never change!

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              • #57
                Updated for Romero/Marinez. And I forgot to add Joshua/Ruiz 2.

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                • #58
                  Hard Core Fan, "Both views are correct".
                  Casual Fan, "They can't both be correct."
                  Hard Core Fan, "That's also correct."

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by revelated View Post
                    Mayweather/Pacquiao: "Nah bruh, you can't win a fight with just a jab"/"The rat-a-tat jab, it's not enough! It's not enough to win the fight!"

                    Garcia/Thurman: "Garcia won that, all Thurman did was jab and run"

                    Holyfield/Valuev: "The right man won, all Holyfield did was jab"

                    Canelo/Golovkin 1: "ggg's only consistent success was his jab, no body shots, very few actual clean shots to the head"

                    Wilder/Fury: "Fury lost those rounds, you can't win by jabbing and feinting"

                    Crawford/Khan: "yeah he was landing all night, but Khan's jab wasn't hurting Bud, Bud walked through them"

                    KSI/Logan Paul 2: "yeah, KSI was winging, but all Logan did was jab, he didn't win that"

                    Spence/Mikey: "Spence got exposed, he couldn't KO lil Mikey and all he could do was jab"


                    Yet...

                    Canelo/Golovkin 2: "Golovkin was hitting Canelo with the jab all night long, he got robbed!/His jab is like a power punch"

                    Klitschko/Fury: "Klitschko won that fight, his jab controlled it!"

                    Golovkin/Jacobs: "Golovkin clearly controlled the fight with his jab, that's why he won doe"

                    Eubank/Saunders: "Eubank got exposed, Saunders' jab was in Eubank's face all night long"

                    Mayweather/McGregor: "McGregor dominated the first four rounds with his jab"

                    Charlo/Korobov: "they almost ROBBED Charlo, he couldn't miss with the jab"

                    Lewis/Tua: "Lewis dominated Tua more than Ike Ibeabuchi, perfect jabbing"

                    Joshua/Ruiz 2: "well, tubby couldn't get past the jab, AJ boxed perfectly"

                    Romero/Marinez: "Marinez couldn't miss with the jab, they ROBBED him/Floyd paid off the judges!"

                    Make up your mind. Either an effective jab wins the fight or it doesn't.

                    Typical low IQ post from you.

                    Jabs can and can't be effective. Far too many variables for you to expect some blanket truth that they work or they don't. Those quotes only mean something in the context of each individual fight.

                    A jab is a key weapon for a boxer period.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
                      A jab is a key weapon for a boxer period.
                      Which is my point.

                      Thus, we need to reconcile with the fact that, for example, Khan jabbed the hell out of Crawford before eating a low blow. Which didn't make Crawford look like anyone's P4P.

                      We need to accept the fact that Golovkin fundamentally won the first Canelo fight, due to his jab.

                      We need to come to grips with the fact that Manny Pacquiao hates a jab pumped into his face; thus his losses to Bradley and Mayweather.

                      But what we shouldn't do is say that Jab A is "too weak" if it landed solid. Paulie's jab on Zab Judah didn't do a damn thing to Judah, yet because Judah essentially threw the fight and refused to fight back, Paulie's jab won him the fight. Doesn't matter how weak the dude is.

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