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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ishy Aytan View Post
    If he becomes the first man to win FOUR linear championships, then he should be... If Floyd comes out of retirement and beats Pac then and only then should he really put infront of Pac...

    And this is coming from a Floyd fan... just got to be honest here.
    Believe me mate, I am realistic and not biased... but you say Pac would be the 1st person to win 4 linear championships... but you could say that Mayweather was the first person to win 6 world titles in 5 weight classes while remaining undefeated... it kind of goes both ways. But yeah, a fight between then would properly decide who goes in front of each other. Either way, Floyd should be higher... Oscar should be lower... and Pacquiao should definitely be on the list.

    I still don't know how in hell Oscar can be above both Hopkins and Jones, Jr!!
    Last edited by Spacey1991; 01-08-2009, 07:50 AM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by rorymac View Post
      But Barney Ross still shouldn't be there, all he did was lose to Henry Armstrong.
      Ross held titles in three weight classes (lightweight, jr. welterweight & welterweight) and beat Tony Canzoneri, Jimmy McLarnin, Ceferino Garcia, Battling Battalino and Sammy Fueller, all world champions.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by K-Nan View Post
        Lol... Oscar ahead of Pernell Whittaker?

        The list actually isn't that bad. I just can't get over ODLH being at 39.
        Agreed.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Spacey1991 View Post
          Believe me mate, I am realistic and not biased... but you say Pac would be the 1st person to win 4 linear championships... but you could say that Mayweather was the first person to win 6 world titles in 5 weight classes while remaining undefeated... it kind of goes both ways. But yeah, a fight between then would properly decide who goes in front of each other. Either way, Floyd should be higher... Oscar should be lower... and Pacquiao should definitely be on the list.

          I still don't know how in hell Oscar can be above both Hopkins and Jones, Jr!!
          Being the first guy to win 4 Lineal Championships is more prestigious than winning 6 titles at 5 different weight classes. The only guy that came close was Armstrong...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by liam_48@msn.com View Post
            Remove Barney ross!! for hatton? the guy who was taken to school and was given a boxing clinic by floyd deserves to be a top 50 all time great LMAO.
            Hatton is p4p best boozer and top 10 p4p crowd draw. That's about it. He may be somewhere in the top 10 all time for his division.

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            • #36
              I'm not knocking Pacman but i'm not sure how you justify his being linear is better than Floyds 5 weights.

              I'm not sure how you justify his 4 linear either.

              Morales is great and it's an awesomw win but he's a Superbantum not a Super feather where pacman fought him, JMM is a great if close win but he's a feather not a superfeather.

              I agree he should be on the list but Hatton will be the only second great win he will have at the oppositions best weight. and to be honest if you're being picky you could say barerra wasn't at his best weight either.

              I don't know why i'm bothering and i'm sure people will say i'm being a hater but I just find the whole linear champ thing total BS especially when you will have Pacman a natural SFW as the linear LWW champ even though he will probably never fight at the weight again.

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              • #37
                you cant be serious ....

                dlh above hopkins, floyd, roy god damn jones...... pac not on the list
                this list must be old.

                roy jones >>> dlh any day

                bernard knocked dlh out why is dlh ahead of him this guy gets credit for having a prettty face.

                believe it or not floyd did not duck any and everybody the man's won 6 titles in 5 weight classes but you have to remember he won 3 LINEAR TITLES not
                no bull crap titles but linear.

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                • #38
                  Oscar De La Fraud shouldn't be on that list..!

                  What did the man accomplish beside winning against Chavez?
                  He won a controversial close decision against a shot, old Whitaker, got beat twice by mosley, Hopkins ko'd him, He did nothing against Mayweather, became little pacmans ***** and lost against Trinidad because he was a chicken..!

                  ''He won against Vargas'' Yeah well congratulations, does that make you into a top 50 or 100 ATG? Facing good competition is not enough, far from it..! You have to win! Put out Oscar and put in Trinidad

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Spacey1991 View Post
                    Well, I was pretty bored and thought I would search 'boxing hall of fame' into Google to find the top 10+ all time greats list... I found this list on a website claiming it was the ESPN top 50 list;

                    50. Mike Tyson
                    49. Erik Morales
                    48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.(undefeated)
                    47. Bernard Hopkins
                    46. Roy Jones Jr.
                    45. Carlos Monzon
                    44. Pernell Whitaker
                    43. Marco Antonio Barrera
                    42. Alexis Arguello
                    41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
                    40. Evander Holyfield
                    39. Oscar De La Hoya
                    38. Larry Holmes
                    37. Thomas Hearns
                    36. Eder Jofre
                    35. Marvin Hagler
                    34. Emile Griffith
                    33. Ruben Olivares
                    32. Jose Napoles
                    31. Billy Conn
                    30. Terry McGovern
                    29. Sandy Saddler
                    28. Jake LaMotta
                    27. Ezzard Charles
                    26. Joe Frazier
                    25. Marcel Cerdan
                    24. Julio Cesar Chavez
                    23. Jimmy McLarnin
                    22. Barney Ross
                    21. Tony Canzoneri
                    20. George Foreman
                    19. Stanley Ketchel
                    18. Archie Moore
                    17. Mickey Walker
                    16. Gene Tunney
                    15. Jimmy Wilde
                    14. Rocky Marciano (only undefeated heavyweight)
                    13. Harry Greb
                    12. Sugar Ray Leonard
                    11. Joe Gans
                    10. Sam Langford
                    9. Jack Dempsey
                    8. Jack Johnson
                    7. Benny Leonard
                    6. Roberto Duran
                    5. Willie Pep
                    4. Joe Louis
                    3. Henry Armstrong
                    2. Muhammad Ali
                    1. Sugar Ray Robinson

                    I was just wandering if everyone agrees with the list, and if anybody thinks some people should be higher or lower in the list, or not in it at all? Discuss.

                    By the way as a Mayweather fan, I didn't put "(undefeated)" in there, and neither the "(only undefeated heavyweight)" on Marciano... I just pasted it in so there is nothing biased on my part.

                    Anyway I would like your opinions, so... discuss!!
                    DLH is on there bu not in front onf Holyfield and Roy Jones? no i dont think so

                    Ide put Louis infront of Armstrong.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Spacey1991 View Post
                      Well, I was pretty bored and thought I would search 'boxing hall of fame' into Google to find the top 10+ all time greats list... I found this list on a website claiming it was the ESPN top 50 list;

                      50. Mike Tyson
                      49. Erik Morales
                      48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.(undefeated)
                      47. Bernard Hopkins
                      46. Roy Jones Jr.
                      45. Carlos Monzon
                      44. Pernell Whitaker
                      43. Marco Antonio Barrera
                      42. Alexis Arguello
                      41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
                      40. Evander Holyfield
                      39. Oscar De La Hoya
                      38. Larry Holmes
                      37. Thomas Hearns
                      36. Eder Jofre
                      35. Marvin Hagler
                      34. Emile Griffith
                      33. Ruben Olivares
                      32. Jose Napoles
                      31. Billy Conn
                      30. Terry McGovern
                      29. Sandy Saddler
                      28. Jake LaMotta
                      27. Ezzard Charles
                      26. Joe Frazier
                      25. Marcel Cerdan
                      24. Julio Cesar Chavez
                      23. Jimmy McLarnin
                      22. Barney Ross
                      21. Tony Canzoneri
                      20. George Foreman
                      19. Stanley Ketchel
                      18. Archie Moore
                      17. Mickey Walker
                      16. Gene Tunney
                      15. Jimmy Wilde
                      14. Rocky Marciano (only undefeated heavyweight)
                      13. Harry Greb
                      12. Sugar Ray Leonard
                      11. Joe Gans
                      10. Sam Langford
                      9. Jack Dempsey
                      8. Jack Johnson
                      7. Benny Leonard
                      6. Roberto Duran
                      5. Willie Pep
                      4. Joe Louis
                      3. Henry Armstrong
                      2. Muhammad Ali
                      1. Sugar Ray Robinson

                      I was just wandering if everyone agrees with the list, and if anybody thinks some people should be higher or lower in the list, or not in it at all? Discuss.

                      By the way as a Mayweather fan, I didn't put "(undefeated)" in there, and neither the "(only undefeated heavyweight)" on Marciano... I just pasted it in so there is nothing biased on my part.

                      Anyway I would like your opinions, so... discuss!!

                      That list is awful

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