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What does it matter if fighting an 0-0 opponent happened in his 3rd or in his 50th fight? They all count. Or should we start looking at fighters' early careers and removing wins because the opponent was inexperienced. Manny Pacquaio does not have 59 wins, he has 50 wins because I looked at his resume and 9 guys were jokes to fight.
50-0 is 50-0, 49-0 is 49-0. They are just part of the whole picture. 49-0 is a great accomplishment, 50-0 is not much better until you start looking at the whole picture. Fighting 25 different champions in 5 different weight classes and being the lineal champ is 4 different weight classes is more impressive than 50-0, but 50-0 adds a nice achievement still.
So here's the truth, Mayweather has a much better resume than any other undefeated fighter, period. And any not undefeated fighter who has as good of a resume as Floyd doesn't have 50-0 to go on their resume. It's the whole picture you have to judge.
SRR, probably him getting to 128-1-2 is more impressive than 50-0 considering his quality of oppo was really good in those fights. Losing 18 more fights as he fought on does take away from that incredible start though. You have to consider the whole body of work and all the records and stats.
SRL, stellar competition, slightly too planned career, a couple losses and a draw to go along with a couple gift decisions. Terry Norris loss matters some, Camacho loss barely matters at all but still registers.
Duran, Got to 72-1 against decent competition culminating in beat SRL. Then took some bad losses. But went up in weight and won titles, stayed around too long and took a bunch more bad losses. You look at the whole career.
Mayweather, 50-0, went 50-0 because he only had 2 close fights so the jusdges never had chances to steal one from him. 5 different weight classes. 25+ champs fought, and 30+ title fights. Fought for title in his 18th fight. His era didn't have the same caliber of fighter as SRL and Duran's.
Ali, got to 55-2 fighting an incredible card while avenging his losses. Lost 3 of his last 4 fights when he was past it, those count just a little.
Those are the only 5 fighters to me that can stake a rightful claim to #1 all time. Greb, Louis, and Pep get honorable mention, but I cannot make a case for any of them for the #1 spot. Who you rank #1 among those 5 just depends on what you as a fan value most.
My list is fluid as I consider new info or look at things differently, right now it goes:
1a. SRR
1b. Mayweather
3. Duran
4. Ali
5. SRL
50-0 is 50-0, 49-0 is 49-0. They are just part of the whole picture. 49-0 is a great accomplishment, 50-0 is not much better until you start looking at the whole picture. Fighting 25 different champions in 5 different weight classes and being the lineal champ is 4 different weight classes is more impressive than 50-0, but 50-0 adds a nice achievement still.
So here's the truth, Mayweather has a much better resume than any other undefeated fighter, period. And any not undefeated fighter who has as good of a resume as Floyd doesn't have 50-0 to go on their resume. It's the whole picture you have to judge.
SRR, probably him getting to 128-1-2 is more impressive than 50-0 considering his quality of oppo was really good in those fights. Losing 18 more fights as he fought on does take away from that incredible start though. You have to consider the whole body of work and all the records and stats.
SRL, stellar competition, slightly too planned career, a couple losses and a draw to go along with a couple gift decisions. Terry Norris loss matters some, Camacho loss barely matters at all but still registers.
Duran, Got to 72-1 against decent competition culminating in beat SRL. Then took some bad losses. But went up in weight and won titles, stayed around too long and took a bunch more bad losses. You look at the whole career.
Mayweather, 50-0, went 50-0 because he only had 2 close fights so the jusdges never had chances to steal one from him. 5 different weight classes. 25+ champs fought, and 30+ title fights. Fought for title in his 18th fight. His era didn't have the same caliber of fighter as SRL and Duran's.
Ali, got to 55-2 fighting an incredible card while avenging his losses. Lost 3 of his last 4 fights when he was past it, those count just a little.
Those are the only 5 fighters to me that can stake a rightful claim to #1 all time. Greb, Louis, and Pep get honorable mention, but I cannot make a case for any of them for the #1 spot. Who you rank #1 among those 5 just depends on what you as a fan value most.
My list is fluid as I consider new info or look at things differently, right now it goes:
1a. SRR
1b. Mayweather
3. Duran
4. Ali
5. SRL
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