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Ive seen some posters who think you have to jump divisions to be p4p#1
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Originally posted by Johnny Dough View PostHagler had like 67 fights and won over 60 of them plus had a ko ratin of ova 80%. Dis Ward guy beat a few good guys ova da span of 2 years, it ain't even close to bein da same. Some of da names on Hagla's resume are considered atg's while da names on Ward's resume is no where to be found in the boxin greats archives.
Hagla was knocking guys out while dis Ward hugs and headbutts most of em to death.
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Originally posted by PBP View PostI agree but if you have a guy that's dominated top competition in multiple divisions versus a guy that dominated top competition in one division, the guy thats dominated multiple divisions should be ranked higher, all else equal.
Let's look at the Ring Magazine P4P kings:
1990-1992: Chavez - multiple division champion
1993-1995: Whitaker - multiple division champion
1996,1999, 2003: Jones Jr. - multiple division champion
1998: De La Hoya - multiple division champion
2000-2001: Shane Mosley - multiple division champion
2004: Bernard Hopkins - middleweight champion
2005-present: Mayweather/Pacquiao - multiple division champions
The only p4p king that wasn't a multiple division champion at the time he was ranked was Hopkins and he had to make an unprecedented run with 20 title defenses in order to claim that title.
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It's better thinking than your warped views. You seem to think ward should unify with guys that are **** just because they have a meaningless belt.
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Only because Roy Jones got KOed and Floyd Mayweather didn't have the resume to take #1
For me, draining the fighter a weight class above you to fight is not p4p caliber at all. He's a very good fighter but he has 3 big wins, 2 if you take into account Dawson looked dead at the weight.Last edited by RichCCFC; 09-20-2012, 04:03 PM.
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People look at accomplishments and dominating different weight divisions is a pretty big accomplishment.
But PBP's post on the first page pretty much summed it all up.
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Originally posted by RichCCFCOnly because Roy Jones got KOed and Floyd Mayweather didn't have the resume to take #1
For me, draining the fighter a weight class above you to fight is not p4p caliber at all. He's a very good fighter but he has 3 big wins, 2 if you take into account Dawson looked dead at the eight.
I would not put Ward over Floyd cause Floyd has accomplished more in more divisions.
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Originally posted by RichCCFC View PostOnly because Roy Jones got KOed and Floyd Mayweather didn't have the resume to take #1
For me, draining the fighter a weight class above you to fight is not p4p caliber at all. He's a very good fighter but he has 3 big wins, 2 if you take into account Dawson looked dead at the weight.
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