Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
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Marquez Is Comfortable With 144; Pacquiao Is 145
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If you look at the people on here most outraged by this fight, their post counts normally run into five figures. They clearly have nothing else going on in their lives (besides some lame job at a fast food joint) so spend their days on here complaining, like they are owed something. Who cares.
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Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood View PostBulking up/lowering down to 135 for the scales, then adding 9lbs of water weight is what Marquez is comfortable with.
Bulking up to 144lbs for the scale is a whole different story.
Marquez doesn't belong above 140+, simple. Whether its with Pac or Floyd. ****, i have a feeling Maidana would give Marquez hell at 140 just for the simple fact hes the bigger man and Marquez won't be able to move around fast or counter fast enough like he does at the lower weights.
Its a BS Fight.
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Originally posted by dan-b View Post^^^Just don't cry about it, eh?
Thats the issue with Pac , its like set up the win and claim the biggest of victory its just a false deal , just fight JMM in a even fight , WTF does Pac need to CW him for to the point it will handicap him .
145 for Cotto , 144 for JMM ,,,, come on its bull**** !
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Yeah and Oscar was in the best shape of his life vs. Pac.
His words, not mine.
JMM knows he will only get the fight at 144 because Pac is a cherry picker.
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Originally posted by Chadmazing View PostI don't understand the big deal with this fight other than people are against Manny (Why? Great fighter? Check. Gentleman and sportsman? Check. Exciting? Check. Lays golden eggs? Nope, maybe that's all he needs to do.) and complain about everything he has done.
Marquez called out a welterweight named Floyd Mayweather and wanted it at 144. Marquez called out a welterweight named Manny Pacquiao and wanted it at 144. Clearly HE has no issues with 144. Why does everybody else? Because he lost to a Floyd Mayweather that didn't even attempt to make weight? He went twelve hard rounds and had his moments against a usually flawless fighter. He's not a bum at 144.
Manny has never weighed more than 145 for a fight including a fight at Junior Middleweight. That's five times that Manny Pacquiao has fought at Welterweight or higher and has never come in on the weight. Clearly, Manny is nothing more than a 145 pounder at the most.
If Manny is just simply a better fighter than Marquez... you kinda can't down his legacy for that. That is kinda the point he wants to make. That is kinda the point to any fight - one guy will be the better fighter. Why don't we call Ray Robinson overrated too? He dared to fight guys he was better than too!
in general, boxers prefer to counter than move forward. jmm is a counterpuncher. so is floyd. marquez was forced to fight like pac in the floyd fight. he was the aggressor and floyd will never fight like that.
in contrast, pac is willing to come forward simply because nobody else will. the fight will be boring as hell. and you know pac. he resents it when the figth is being booed. floyd don't give a crap. so pac does it at his own peril.Last edited by tomhawq; 05-27-2011, 10:46 PM.
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