Originally posted by Stokely
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Manny Pacquiao had weak competition on his road to becoming a multi-division champion
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Originally posted by Stokely View PostAnd yes Judah was better than Cotto at welterweight even though he lost to Cotto after already losing all of his belts to Mayweather.
Judah was a two time welterweight champion with 6 title defenses, he was also undisputed at welterweight.
Cotto was two time welterweight champion with 5 title defenses, never unified the belts and was never undisputed.
Cotto that Manny beat was coming of a cheat beating that nearly ended his career, they fed Cotto two cans and then Manny at a CW,, Cotto had a stacked deck that night.
The best Cotto was a very rounded courageous fighter he had more off everything bar speed against Judah.
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Originally posted by Stokely View PostChatchai Sasakul, ended his career 3-3 against champions (Flyweight)
Lehlo Ledwaba, won a vacant belt against a non-champion. Never beat a champion in his career (Super Bantamweight)
David Diaz who got schooled by Kendall Holt. Beat a washed up Érik Morales, never beat another champion after that (Lightweight)
Antonio Margarito WITHOUT the hand wraps. Had six losses and no belt, they were fighting for a vacant one (Super Welterweight)
The only divisions he gets credit for conquering is when he beat Marquez to win his first belt at Super Featherweight and when he beat Miguel Cotto to win his first belt at Welterweight. Manny never won a belt at 140 or 126 so he’s not actually an eight division champion, he’s really a six division champion with wins against weak opponents in four of those divisions.
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Now let’s compare Floyd’s competition on his quest to becoming a multi-division champion
Genero Hernández, two time champion with 11 title defenses. Only loss was to Oscar De La Hoya. Was considered #1 in his division before Floyd beat him (Super Featherweight)
Hernández > Marquez at Super Featherweight
Jose Luis Castillo, two time champion with 5 title defenses. Considered #1 in his division (Lightweight)
Castillo > Díaz
Arturo Gatti, two division champion. (Super Lightweight) [This is the division Pacquiao never won a belt in]
Zab Judah, multiple time former world champion in two divisions and was undisputed champion (Welterweight)
Judah > Cotto at Welterweight
Oscar De La Hoya, six division champion and still champion at this time coming off of a big win against Ricardo Mayorga (Super Welterweight)
De La Hoya > Margarito
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Originally posted by Stokely View PostChatchai Sasakul, ended his career 3-3 against champions (Flyweight)
Lehlo Ledwaba, won a vacant belt against a non-champion. Never beat a champion in his career (Super Bantamweight)
David Diaz who got schooled by Kendall Holt. Beat a washed up Érik Morales, never beat another champion after that (Lightweight)
Antonio Margarito WITHOUT the hand wraps. Had six losses and no belt, they were fighting for a vacant one (Super Welterweight)
The only divisions he gets credit for conquering is when he beat Marquez to win his first belt at Super Featherweight and when he beat Miguel Cotto to win his first belt at Welterweight. Manny never won a belt at 140 or 126 so he’s not actually an eight division champion, he’s really a six division champion with wins against weak opponents in four of those divisions.
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Now let’s compare Floyd’s competition on his quest to becoming a multi-division champion
Genero Hernández, two time champion with 11 title defenses. Only loss was to Oscar De La Hoya. Was considered #1 in his division before Floyd beat him (Super Featherweight)
Hernández > Marquez at Super Featherweight
Jose Luis Castillo, two time champion with 5 title defenses. Considered #1 in his division (Lightweight)
Castillo > Díaz
Arturo Gatti, two division champion. (Super Lightweight) [This is the division Pacquiao never won a belt in]
Zab Judah, multiple time former world champion in two divisions and was undisputed champion (Welterweight)
Judah > Cotto at Welterweight
Oscar De La Hoya, six division champion and still champion at this time coming off of a big win against Ricardo Mayorga (Super Welterweight)
De La Hoya > Margarito
likewise, ricky hatton was the lineal and ring magazine champion of the world at 140 lbs. his lineage was traced back to kostya tszyu, a great and long reigning champion. hatton's loss came to floyd at the 147 limit and hatton's 140 lb lineage was not on the line.
at least get some real perspective and know what was going on at the time before you spout off your nonsense.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View PostYeah
Dude had no hype
No media attention
No promoter
No manager
No food
Yup
Easy road
Even after that he had to starch Barrera before getting some attention.
Easy road. Lol.
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