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Old 11-04-2008, 05:49 PM #681
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As for our last coversation i finished with these questions:
One main question is "how do u know ur God makes the right decisions?" and "how do u justify ur acceptance in the belief in hell?"
If you're entertaining the thought of GOD, entertain the possibility that He has a greater understanding than you do.
Who would want to serve a God that had inferior thinking anyway.

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The people in church are already 'saved'.
Its the ones outside who need converting, and how do u do that? Talking about the miracles of Jesus isnt going to work unless they have faith thats the stories are true.
So how do they achieve faith? If they dont theyre going to hell right?

If they keep finding reasons to not believe they will never be able to believe. So should they just ignore those reasons? Why should they?

Why would Jesus not want to be understood? Or perform miracles to the non-believers? If u loved somone u would do everything u could to convince them their lives were in danger. Why then does God not answer prayers or gives us a unquestionable, undeniable, eternal divine sign?
Of coarse Jesus wanted to be understood. Don't misunderstand what he did.
He spoke in parable to weed out those who weren't sincerely interested.
He made Himself available afterwards for those who were willing to go the extra mile to understand His teachings.

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Yes, Pazuzu was/is me. I forgot i changed my name.
Am i still having to prove my 'sincerity' to u????
Sincerity is everything.
It determines wether this conversation will lead to anything good, or if it'll have a negative effect.
If you're looking for reasons to NOT believe you'll find them.
But If you're looking for reasons TO believe, you'll also find them.
But I WON'T waist a single minute of my time posting to ARGUE with anyone about the kingdom.


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What makes u doubt me?
You believe God is a 'a universal connection'. Not necessarily an intelligent 'being'.
Yet you click on a thread that's titled "How to get to Heaven When you Die".
As if a 'universal connection' would have a 'dwelling place'.
You're either jumping into this thread to impose your concrete view,
or you're open the possibility of an intelligent being that's created some "HEAVEN"
that people can "GET INTO".

Maybe it's the latter, but seems you can't get past your own view to accept something as simple as faith.
We all have a level a faith. Wether it's believing that a tomorrow that you've never seen will come, to the
"LONG STRETCHED" faith of believing Jesus was God.

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I dont think i could list the things ive learnt since March regarding religious faith.
I've looked into the different arguments concerning Gods existance, to see if any of them
convince me in any way that there is really somthing to it.
But i havent got any closer to understanding how people manage to take that giant
leap of faith that a loving, caring, judgemental, punishing God exists.
Let me save us both time & energy. You WON'T get any closer without faith.
Christianity along with every world religion, including your own philosophy, requires faith, cause
you're not 100% certain. You're basing your beliefs on a God that you don't see but can only
experience AFTER being in the faith.
Let's not forget the not-so-far-fetched definition of the word "faith" described in scripture...
"faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." Hebrew 11:1
...that's not even far from Webster's definition.

Christianity wouldn't be a "faith" if you had all the evidence that you need.
You're waiting for evidence that will suddenly give you a moment of illumination that only God grants:
God says through scripture: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate." 1 Corinthians 1:19
In other words, in a religion that bases it's salvation on a Christ, you have to rely on Him for salvation, not your own mind or its ability to comprehend.
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Im not sure what the difference is between wishful thinking and faith.
I understand the practicality of religion and theism, just not how so many people achieve it.
I heard someone talk about this.
Wishful thinking vs faith. It helped me when I was going through this, and
I could give you an mp3, but it won't matter much. If you're missing my point so far, then I doubt
anything will get through to you.

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With it seems if ur asked difficult questions u dont really answer, but question my sincerity.
Difficult!?!?!?!
Not at all.
I've asked alot of the same questions you have and more.
People like you end up being leaders of the faith instead of sheep.
But you HAVE to understand, that all the answers to your questions won't make sense without the work of God, and if I answer your questions you'll miss my this main point.
I've already found answers to all these 'skeptical' questions, cause I've been through them. But ONLY AFTER I 'flipped' my thinking from skepticism to faith.

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Is that what faith is? Just saying "ok, i believe, i wont doubt any more". And this is what im getting at; how do people do that??
You have 2 steps to get past before entertaining any further thoughts of all this "bull crap" faith stuff.
Is this idea of a GOD even a possibility? If so, is He capable of using man to do His will - like writing & preserving a Bible?
You have to get past those 2 before any further progress.
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