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  • #11
    Originally posted by dancovboxer View Post
    You are right I probably shouldn't of said ''in great shape'' but for Toney at this age & stage of his career I guess it is!
    If anything... it isn't!

    Dropping 57lbs at 43... will most likely mean you are not in shape to box for 12 rounds.

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    • #12
      How much weight has Toney lost? Like 30 Lbs?

      He's lost an unbelievable amount of weight. I wouldn't be suprised if he was weak come fight night.

      I'm rooting for Toney to pull it off though and I think there's very minimal chance he wins.

      But, he will lose, by wide UD. IMO.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
        If anything... it isn't!

        Dropping 57lbs at 43... will most likely mean you are not in shape to box for 12 rounds.
        Hmm well it depends how fast you lose the weight and what kind of weight you're shedding.. like when Roy went back down to light heavyweight after heavy.. he lost 20lbs of muscle.. James looks like its probably 50lbs+ fat and maybe a little muscle

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        • #14
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          How much weight has Toney lost? Like 30 Lbs?

          He's lost an unbelievable amount of weight. I wouldn't be suprised if he was weak come fight night.

          I'm rooting for Toney to pull it off though and I think there's very minimal chance he wins.

          But, he will lose, by wide UD. IMO.
          57 Lbs. and 43 years old.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
            If anything... it isn't!

            Dropping 57lbs at 43... will most likely mean you are not in shape to box for 12 rounds.
            57 Lbs?!?!

            He's lost 57 Lbs?

            Wow. I thought it was around 30.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Cassius Liston View Post
              Hmm well it depends how fast you lose the weight and what kind of weight you're shedding.. like when Roy went back down to light heavyweight after heavy.. he lost 20lbs of muscle.. James looks like its probably 50lbs+ fat and maybe a little muscle
              He's smaller all the way around, and trust me when I say this... I hope I'm wrong.

              The skills are there to make Lebedev look silly... but I don't believe the stamina and reflexes are.

              I think Toney can win... but the dramatic weight loss of over 50 lbs has a lot of questions left to be answered.. especially at his age.
              Last edited by THE REED; 11-02-2011, 03:24 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                57 Lbs?!?!

                He's lost 57 Lbs?

                Wow. I thought it was around 30.
                His last fight was the end of last year... and he came in at a staggering 257lbs..

                Lets not even get into the fact it'll be an entire year since he's last fought... at 43 years old.

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                • #18
                  If ledev K.O's toney, who do we send next?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                    If anything... it isn't!

                    Dropping 57lbs at 43... will most likely mean you are not in shape to box for 12 rounds.
                    ya but its 57lbs of pure fat and he has had 8 months to take it off

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                    • #20
                      It doesn't appear that he lost 50 some odd pounds all at once during this camp, it seems he's been dropping weight for sometime and probably entered camp much less than the 257 he weighed in his last fight...

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