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Why are people being fooled by HBO's mismatches?
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostThat is actually one of the main difference between PBC and HBO, HBO is concerned about the narrative in building a guy to be stars with each fight leading to something else. It is well explained and it is easy to pick up.
PBC sells its guys but the whole product is not explained well there are just fights with no connection and while the fights and fighters are sold on TV what happens in between is a big mystery that no one knows what to expect.
That creates a certain perception and that means a lot with how people view fights.
Though, they did a good job with Mares/LSC and Jacobs/Quillin, PBC could, IMO, most definitely do a better job building up future matchups (especially at Welterweight).
Having said that, HBO has become so married to their own 'narrative' that they've let it dictate dayum near every aspect of their boxing operation to, again IMO, to he detriment of the fanbase. From which fights they select to show, which fighters they chose to back, to their fight night commentary, the 'narrative' rules above all.
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There are a lot of mismatches on there. When you got guys who are a level above everyone else in their division it happens.
I mean we could line GGG vs the Jacobs/Quillin winner and it would still seem like a mismatch as they are more in the Lemieux level.
I have always said the overall best fights are the ones with mid level guys vs other mid level guys. You get great offense and shaky defense making our day.
This is why we demand fights like Ward vs GGG and Ward vs Kovalev. At the top, we need the top guys fighting each other. GGG will keep rolling along, and I will watch, but I also want more.
I am excited about Jacob vs Quillin because I honestly cannot lean towards a winner, it is a pure pickem fightLast edited by deanrw; 12-02-2015, 03:23 PM.
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Originally posted by Cinci Champ View PostSo I was thinking why is HBO getting so much credit for putting on "great" fights when in reality they are just as big of mismatches if not more then PBC? I mean lets be honest here krushers last fight was a mismatch all of crawfords fights were mismatches. GGG fights a bunch of mismatches they had canelo fighting kirkland. Lemonchenkos fights are all mismatches beyond belief. I mean im just thinking like is hbo that good at promoting fights that they are able to fool boxing fans into thinking they are putting on great fights?
With the little shows they put on hbo should be doing better if they are the so called better network with better fights. Maybe im missing something here but I dont think I am.
What do you guys think?
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Originally posted by Fetta View PostEveryone has been doing it for YEARS and are still doing it. Some just dont like Haymon and for many its his association to another fighter.
I love the sport so i dont care who puts on the fights.
I have said it before and will say it again that i love seeing fighters i would have never got the chance to see or even know existed if PBC wasnt around.
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Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe View Postgreat post I agree 100% PBC puts on good fights I was at last weeks card and it was great
(2) HBO has to work with a limited stable. While they have the top guy in most divisions, they don't have very many of the top contenders below that man.
Haymon could make amazing matchups between his top guys every three weeks. HUGE STABLE. Does so little with it. Thurman should be fighting Porter, Garcia should be rematching Khan, Stevenson should be fighting Beterbiev if they can't do Kovalev, and I could list about 10 other fights.
(3) Activity: a lot of HBO's fighters are more active. Haymon's guys (except for Wilder) fight maybe 2x per year. If you fight 4x per year like say, GGG, and 1 of those guys is a decent fight like Lemieux and 3 are pretty weak.
... well, that's better than fighting 2x per year against 2 overmatched opponents.
If you only fight 2x per year, it better be good
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Originally posted by Cinci Champ View PostSo I was thinking why is HBO getting so much credit for putting on "great" fights when in reality they are just as big of mismatches if not more then PBC? I mean lets be honest here krushers last fight was a mismatch all of crawfords fights were mismatches. GGG fights a bunch of mismatches they had canelo fighting kirkland. Lemonchenkos fights are all mismatches beyond belief. I mean im just thinking like is hbo that good at promoting fights that they are able to fool boxing fans into thinking they are putting on great fights?
With the little shows they put on hbo should be doing better if they are the so called better network with better fights. Maybe im missing something here but I dont think I am.
What do you guys think?
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