Originally Posted by Brassangel
In a randomized bracket:
2. Muhammad Ali vs. 10. Lennox Lewis
5. George Foreman vs. 8. Sonny Liston
3. Rocky Marciano vs. 7. Mike Tyson
6. Joe Frazier vs. 9. Jack Dempsey
4. Larry Holmes vs. 1. Joe Louis
Who wins? Who faces off afterwards? What's the final outcome?
I disagree about Ali always winning of 2 of 3 against elite heavies. He simply never had to face that caliber of prime great heavy, Sonny be damned. The toughest fighter he faced in his prime was Terrell who gave him hell in spite of what you read about that fight. Had Terrell be a big puncher, the outcome might have been different.
A good victory for Ali, but if he looked smallish against Terrell, imagine Terrell on steroids and you have Lewis. Since Ali doesn't have one punch power, any time he does manage to hurt Lewis, Lewis will likely recover before Ali can put him away. In the meantime Lewis would offset Ali's jab with his longer, harder jab, and will be a major offensive threat when Ali has to stop dancing and start fighting.
In his fashion, Ali does have one of the best combinations of natural talent and mental makeups of any fighter in history, but he clowned a bit too much that he got away with against inferior opponents. I don't think we ever saw the best of Ali because of inferior opposition and his forced retirement. Joe Frazier was coming along nicely and likely would have been matched up against Ali in 69/70. Ali would not have been as hungry as he was in 71, but he would've been truer and sharper to his natural style which would alter the nature of the fight somewhat, probably making it even better.
Lewis, close UD.
Foreman, KO 6
Dempsey/Frazier is the hardest pick. Each is a bad match up for the other. Tough, brutal, well schooled fighters. Frazier was a bit of a machine that had to warm up for maximum efficiency though, so I go with Dempsey by early KO, say by 3. Jack is gonna hate it if Joe survives those early rounds though!
Louis, KO 8.