Horn mauls Manny: "dirty fighter". Fury mauls Wilder: "brilliant!". Seems legit

[Combat Talk Radio]

Let's see.

In both fights the A-Side is getting walked down, bullied and repeatedly leaned on.

In both fights there's some elbows.

In both fights there's some rabbit punches.

In both fights the B-Side is huge compared to the A-Side and uses their weight advantage perfectly.

In both fights the A-Side gets literally thrown down at a point.

Yet, Fury is praised and Horn gets no credit for the Bully Blueprint.

Look, Fury fought the perfect fight and showed why he has been a Top P4P. He handled the rematch the way he was supposed to, unlike Joshua.

But, NSB is once again being inconsistent.

If Fury's bullying of Wilder was a brilliant masterclass, then Horn's bullying of Manny was a brilliant masterclass.

If Horn's bullying was dirty and the win tainted, then Fury's bullying was dirty and the win tainted.

Pick one, just be consistent.

[hectari]

You make good points. The only difference is tyson fury got deducted a point for choking wilder and warned, and fury actually dropped wilder. Horn got ripped for a masterclass because pacquiao is beloved, if that were some other fighter like adrien broner instead of pacman nobody would have ripped horn they would have praised him for the win like they did fury.

[Mrsantiago]

Both fury and horn used similar tactics that were equally effective the times when fury used speed and angles were the major difference between horn and fury.

So what fury did was similar to what mayweather did to Hatton in later rounds of their fight what horn did was similar to hatton pre mayweather lol.

On a side note fury roughhoused Steve Cunningham a few years ago and I think this style is better for him with his size & skill set.

[Combat Talk Radio]

You make good points. The only difference is tyson fury got deducted a point for choking wilder and warned, and fury actually dropped wilder. Horn got ripped for a masterclass because pacquiao is beloved, if that were some other fighter like adrien broner instead of pacman nobody would have ripped horn they would have praised him for the win like they did fury.

Okay, but that's because Kenny Bayless was clearly doing everything he could to protect Wilder. I talked about that in the other thread about the point deduction which was BS - because at the time Kenny broke them up like he was cool, then just decided to take a point over nothing when Wilder was in trouble.

Wilder got like three situations where he was given an extended breather because of the BS.

If that had been Mark Nelson, Fury definitely would have gotten a stoppage by Round 2.

Both fury and horn used similar tactics that were equally effective the times when fury used speed and angles were the major difference between horn and fury.

Horn was using lateral movement and while he's nowhere near as fast as Fury, he was able to nullify Manny's combos in every round but nine.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Someone else brought up Andre Ward.

I didn't see Ward do any "mauling". There was a lot of in-fighting which will naturally have some questionable shots, but nowhere near what we saw with Fury or Horn.

[Richard G]

There is no objectivity where Manny is involved, that's the difference. Plus Horn was not supposed to win and that attitude carries a lot of weight. Good to see that Fury got a fair go in the US, looking at that fight a lot of Fury's 'fouls' to the head resulted from Wilder moving just as Fury was throwing a punch. Similar to Horn with his 'head butts', Horn's head forward style combined with Manny's agressive head movements and ****! there is contact. But it's all Horn's fault, no objectivity.

[lizard_man]

Except horn didn't maul manny.

[pittapatta66]

not the same. at least one knockdown wasnt called and fury got a point deduction. we should be thankful that the ref separated them fairly quickly unlike in ward v kovalev where ward was allowed to stay in the clinch for a full round at a time lol.

ref: usa
judge 1: usa
judge 2: usa
judge 3: usa
location: usa

americans are the only nationality that have ZERO right to complain about unfairness in boxing. usa followed by the uk are the spoiled b**** of boxing. I would love to see, just ONCE in my lifetime, a uk or usa champion REGULARLY have to go into enemy territory like russia, china etc. and face their champions with a ref and judges against them.

history would look a lot different for many fighters records if they weren't pampered stay-at-home kittens.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Except horn didn't maul manny.

Bro. You can't be serious.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Not even remotely comparable. Horn initiated dirty tactics to win. Fury leaned on Wilder to stop the ***** from always initiating a clinch. Fury was beating Wilder everywhere. Horn was getting beat when not doing his dirt. This is as moronic as that ****** comparing Ward's dirty bull**** to Fury leaning on a holding *****.