Disspelling the Floyd-USADA Conspiracy

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  • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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    #81
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    There was nothing in the rules prohibiting it. You are making the incorrect claim that the rules prohibited it. So show us. It's like asking me to show you where in the rules it doesn't say that you can't breathe. It would be up to you to show us where in the rules it does say that you can't breathe.
    NSAC follows wada set guidelines/methods so does USADA.

    Wada limits IV to 50ml per 6 hours, mayweather took 750ml (12x the legal limit). = CHEATING.

    Source M2.2
    https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...ed-list-en.pdf

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      #82
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      So Floyd applies for a TUE on the day before the fight
      That's not how the process works. The USADA doping control officer was with Floyd the entire day. Followed him everywhere. When the paramedics are called, the USADA DCO is there relaying information to USADA. When the IV is administered, the DCO collects urine before the IV is given and after the IV is given. USADA is kept abreast of the situation and knows Floyd will be required to apply for a retroactive TUE. I don't know the exact amount of days you have to submit the paperwork, but 2-3 weeks wouldn't be unreasonable considering the amount of lawyers, doctors, witnesses, etc involved. Meanwhile, USADA is doing their own investigating, questioning witnesses, analyzing information from the DCO etc.

      When Floyd's team submits his TUE, the TUE committee looks it over, having no idea it's Floyd. If everything is done by the book and the paperwork is filled out correctly, and a USADA DCO witnessed everything, the athlete gave a sample before and after the IV, etc, it's a pretty easy case to decide. Shouldn't take the committee more than a day to determine everything was legitimate.


      takes a massive IV and is allowed to fight without anyone knowing whether he is violating the doping regulations or not.
      Wasn't a "massive" IV. Was the size of a small bottle of water. If you were going to do a system flush, you'd take a lot more than that, you wouldn't do it in front of USADA and you wouldn't give a urine sample right before the IV. 750ml of salt water & vitamins isn't going to mask anything when you give a sample right before & right after.


      That would first be known weeks after the fight has happened! Wow! That’s a sick system don’t you think?
      All of this was voluntary. NAC rules didn't prohibit IV. Floyd & Manny chose to voluntarily hire USADA to determine if any IV use was for legitimate medical purposes. A small bottle of salt water & vitamins doesn't give you any advantage. If you provide a urine sample right before & right after, there's no way for it to mask anything. Nothing controversial took place. What happened is that HBO hired a former journalist to smear Mayweather. The article has been debunked.

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        #83
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        If the athlete is ill, he shouldn’t compete.
        That's just silly.

        Originally posted by Real King Kong
        that wasn't the case with Floyd. it was shady af, and I wish people would stop defending it. just call it what it is...suspect. nobody can definitively say Floyd cheated, so it's not like it's some type of admission that he was dirty.
        Yeah...paramedics are in a habit of just showing up, and administering treatment for no apparent reason.

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          #84
          Originally posted by b00g13man
          That's just silly.



          Yeah...paramedics are in a habit of just showing up, and administering treatment for no apparent reason.
          you can't even fathom that the entire story might not be on the up and up? it's shady...plain and simple. if pac or any of Floyd's opponents did the same thing and had the same story, you'd be on here having a nerd spazz.

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            #85
            Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
            NSAC follows wada set guidelines/methods
            At the time, NAC & WADA had different IV policies. You'll find nothing in the NAC rules at the time banning IV. MMA fighters & boxers were routinely rehydrating with IV in Nevada with impunity. Floyd & Manny chose to hold themselves to a higher standard than NAC required at the time.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Real King Kong
              you can't even fathom that the entire story might not be on the up and up? it's shady...plain and simple. if pac or any of Floyd's opponents did the same thing and had the same story, you'd be on here having a nerd spazz.
              Shady why? What reason is there to disbelieve the sequence of events, when even Hauser admits his original accusations were misguided?

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                #87
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                At the time, NAC & WADA had different IV policies. You'll find nothing in the NAC rules at the time banning IV. MMA fighters & boxers were routinely rehydrating with IV in Nevada with impunity. Floyd & Manny chose to hold themselves to a higher standard than NAC required at the time.

                Here is NSAC "PENALTIES/FINES GUIDELINES" that is now a DELETED NSAC to cover their tracks. But NSAC always followed WADA guidelines.

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                2. We will continue to follow WADA’s Prohibited List, for both prohibited
                substances and prohibited methodologies.

                and just to top it off, USADA themselves follow WADA code.

                So USADA could not give Mayweather a TUE for 750ML cause it is specifically against wada code.

                Source M2.2
                https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...ed-list-en.pdf

                - Intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than 50 mL per 6 hour period
                except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions,
                surgical procedures or clinical investigations.


                USADA
                Are you competing in an event for the first time where there may be USADA drug testing? Got questions? Anti-Doping 101 is here for you.


                - Which organization determines the substances and methods that are prohibited?
                -- The World Anti-Doping Agency has a committee (List Committee), comprised of experts from around the world, that determines the list of prohibited substances and methods, and receives input from all interested stakeholders. All signatories to the WADA Code follow the WADA Prohibited List.



                Wada limits IV to 50ml per 6 hours, mayweather took 750ml (12x the legal limit). = CHEATING.

                So yeah Mayweather CHEATED!
                Last edited by .!WAR MIKEY!.; 07-25-2018, 02:55 PM.

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                • CHOWWOKKA
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  I'll believe Hauser who is an attorney by trade and conducts meticulous research over the "opinion" of some fan-girls guzzling the Mayweather Kool-Aid.
                  Hauser also scored Bradley beating Pacquiao in the first fight...

                  Go on..

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
                    Hauser also scored Bradley beating Pacquiao in the first fight...

                    Go on..
                    but bradley did beat manny. check the stats, it'll show bradley has a win.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by WesternChamp
                      but bradley did beat manny. check the stats, it'll show bradley has a win.
                      Do you believe Timothy Bradley beat Manny Pacquiao in their first fight.

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