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Old 11-16-2012, 02:41 PM #19
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Originally Posted by techliam View Post
Beating the 2nd best usually doesn't do much, considering 2nd best is usually opinion.

For the RJJ situation, his legacy wasn't hurt much by not fighting him. He was a master at 154, unbeatable at 160 and 168 (noone head to head can be RJJ at 168 even today), at 175 he dominated (with the exception obviously), won a title at heavy, then regained the lineal title at 175. In the case of 175, it's not as if people viewed them as equals, he was just seen as the next guy who was seen as the best challenge to Jones. Noone would bet against RJJ in reality.

For the Klitschkos, it'd damage their personal image, something that means a lot to them both, especially Vitali, if they ever fought. In boxing terms, hmm I guess so. But Wlad and Vitali were never prime-for-prime. In an in-depth boxing analysis on that fight, thered always be doubts that one wasn't prime.

The Mayweather/Pacquiao fight situation is just embarrassing. Mayweather's legacy is more damaged from this, as it has been years since he has universally been ranked 1 P4P. Pacquiao will remain a star outside of boxing, a huge celebrity in the Philippines. I can't see what Mayweather will be outside of boxing.

But i'm sure it does devalue other legacys in some form or other. Its just these examples can be explained otherwise.

RJJ should rightfully be favored but I think a lot of you are seriously forgetting the number of MW and SMW talents back in the 90's. Julian Jackson, Gerald, Nigel, Eubank, Nunn, were all amazing talents. Just because RJJ dominated Toney at 168 don't mean he will dominate everyone he touched. Dariuz had a legit chance of being the toughest opponent RJJ ever fought prior to Calzaghe.

As for Vitali's personal image. You mean the guy who admitted to steroid usage? The same guy who told Wlad to 'quit like a coward' after his knock outs. The same guy who made fun of Wlad and Emmanuel after Brewster? Who said they were done? The same guy who stood over Solis when Solis injured his knee and yelled at him to stop faking?

That guy?
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