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  • #81
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post

    "in cases where high energy beta particles are emitted shielding must be accomplished with low atomic weight materials, e.g. plastic, wood, water, or acrylic glass"

    "]where high energy beta particles are emitted shielding must be accomplished[/SIZE][/B]"... you do know what that means, right?

    read this...

    "The solar wind has low-energy particles of about one hundred electron volts per particle, so each could possibly ionize a few dozen atoms. This is not of great concern. What makes this radiation problematic is that it has the highest flux of the three sources, about 10 billion of these particles per square centimeter each second. Each particle itself cannot do so much damage, but there are so many of them that the added damage is of definite concern.

    Solar flares have between 1000 particles per square centimeter per second with energies in the ten millions of electron volts, up to particle fluxes of 1 per square centimeter per second with up to 100 million electron volts. Each of these higher energy particles has enough energy to ionize of the order of 10 million atoms. Even so, scientists have figured out pretty good ways to deal with this type of radiation, which consists of putting matter between the radiation and the instruments and people[/B]
    "
    https://www.physicscentral.com/explo...shields-up.cfm

    we 100% require radiation shielding, when travelling through a radiation belt... you muppet
    Yes. Shielding is 100% required.
    Low atomic weight materials such as plastic, wood, water, or acrylic glass act as shielding

    Aluminum and fiber insulation are also low atomic weight materials.

    The ship is made out of these materials.

    So you agree the astronauts were protected now?
    If they weren't. Explain how they weren't.




    even in this revisionist document, which NASA released specifically to cover-up the "nope, never gave shielding a single thought" red-flag... NASA ADMIT that they did not design any radiation shielding for the moon landings...

    https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Stephen.Farr...unig/69-19.htm

    Where does NASA admit to not designing any radiation shielding?
    Just a simple quote will do.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
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      1) why will it take 5 years... ?

      it took less than 10 years last time, and we have PHENOMENAL technology on hand now in this day and age

      they used a CPU that was 1300x less powerful than a iPhone 5... now we have quantum computers and super advanced physics

      2) riiiiiiiighty then... wake me up in 5 years when that shlt does not happen... that sounded like an election promise

      how come China have not been to the moon... and Russia... ?

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      • #83
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        1) why will it take 5 years... ?

        it took less than 10 years last time, and we have PHENOMENAL technology on hand now in this day and age

        they used a CPU that was 1300x less powerful than a iPhone 5... now we have quantum computers and super advanced physics

        2) riiiiiiiighty then... wake me up in 5 years when that shlt does not happen... that sounded like an election promise

        how come China have not been to the moon... and Russia... ?
        Wonder where these guys are going then, when they flight into outer space 'I found another video, which stated that they where already planning a mission to Mars over 30 years ago' but funding was not sufficient etc'

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Pretty Boy32 View Post
          How in the hell did we get there in 1969?

          Where are the tapes?

          Why can't we go back?

          Seriously our tech is so amazing right now (mind blowing actually) and we still can't send a man into orbit
          There have been multiple moon landings not just one.

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          • #85
            https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-49001181

            They were tracked during their flight by scientists in England.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by The Noose View Post
              Yes. Shielding is 100% required.
              Low atomic weight materials such as plastic, wood, water, or acrylic glass act as shielding

              wait, so now you DO think that astronauts require radiation shielding ?

              that is a start, I guess

              when did you change your mind... ?

              Originally posted by The Noose View Post
              What kind of shielding do you think they needed?

              Originally posted by The Noose View Post
              Aluminum and fiber insulation are also low atomic weight materials.

              The ship is made out of these materials.

              So you agree the astronauts were protected now?

              If they weren't. Explain how they weren't.


              no, the astronauts were completely unprotected

              how could they be protected with no radiation shielding... ?

              you, thinking that NASA " fluked " it... by giving it no thought whatsoever... is amusing

              a tin-foil hat is not radiation shielding

              "The solar wind has low-energy particles of about one hundred electron volts per particle, so each could possibly ionize a few dozen atoms. This is not of great concern. What makes this radiation problematic is that it has the highest flux of the three sources, about 10 billion of these particles per square centimeter each second. Each particle itself cannot do so much damage, but there are so many of them that the added damage is of definite concern.

              Solar flares have between 1000 particles per square centimeter per second with energies in the ten millions of electron volts, up to particle fluxes of 1 per square centimeter per second with up to 100 million electron volts. Each of these higher energy particles has enough energy to ionize of the order of 10 million atoms. Even so, scientists have figured out pretty good ways to deal with this type of radiation, which consists of putting matter between the radiation and the instruments and people


              Scientists and engineers have been working for decades on how to protect humans and equipment from radiation. It remains one of the hardest problems to solve. Some promoters of space travel feel that allowing an increased risk of cancer is not an issue, but this attitude is unusual. Even airlines are concerned about the increased radiation doses from travel, and prefer travel routes with lower radiation (away from the pole regions).9 Most space agencies are very concerned with the risks of radiation, and the effect radiation might have on an astronaut’s ability to function on an extended mission.

              Molecules with low atomic numbers and rich in hydrogen tend to absorb secondary neutrons better and hence are better for GCR in which a number of secondary reactions will occur. However, GCR or its secondary radiation can get past mass shielding, unless the shielding is prohibitively thick – surpassing mass restrictions on a reasonable space vehicle. Continued advances in material science are trying to address this problem."
              https://www.physicscentral.com/explo...shields-up.cfm

              if they cannot solve that problem today, how did they solve it 50 years ago Einstein?

              does this thing look like it has any radiation shielding... ?

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              truth be known... it will probably require anti-gravity technology, due to the weight of the shielding


              why did you need to believe that ridiculous story... you fkn hillbilly ?
              Last edited by aboutfkntime; 12-08-2019, 08:26 PM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
                https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-49001181

                They were tracked during their flight by scientists in England.




                suuuuuure they were

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
                  https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-49001181

                  They were tracked during their flight by scientists in England.




                  you silly g-strings believe EVERYTHING you read on the internet, huh?

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post


                    no, the astronauts were completely unprotected
                    This is a quote from you...


                    in cases where high energy beta particles are emitted shielding must be accomplished with low atomic weight materials, e.g. plastic, wood, water, or acrylic glass"

                    I'll dumb it down for you...
                    beta particles are absorbed by light materials. So they act as shielding.
                    Aluminum is a low atomic weight material.
                    The ship was made from aluminum.


                    Question: Can aluminum be used to shield against radiation?

                    a tin-foil hat is not radiation shielding
                    Really? lol

                    This big image you dont understand shows clearly aluminum stops beta particles. Even paper stops some radiation.

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                    Scientists and engineers have been working for decades on how to protect humans and equipment from radiation.[] It remains one of the hardest problems to solve. Some promoters of space travel feel that allowing an increased risk of cancer is not an issue, but this attitude is unusual. ]Even airlines are concerned about the increased radiation doses from travel, and prefer travel routes with lower radiation (away from the pole regions)].9 Most space agencies are very concerned with the risks of radiation, and the effect radiation might have on an astronaut's ability to function on an extended mission.[]

                    Molecules with low atomic numbers and rich in hydrogen tend to absorb secondary neutrons better and hence are better for GCR in which a number of secondary reactions will occur. However, GCR or its secondary radiation can get past mass shieldingSIZE], unless the shielding is prohibitively thick - [SIZEsurpassing mass restrictions on a reasonable space vehicle. Continued advances in material science are trying to address this problem[/SIZE]B]."
                    https://www.physicscentral.com/explo...shields-up.cfm
                    if they cannot solve that problem today, how did they solve it 50 years ago Einstein?
                    Did you read the title of that article?

                    "What's Holding Up Human Travel to Mars?"

                    Did we go to Mars 50 years ago?




                    here is the REAL point... FACT: the Van Allen belt protects us from the harmful cosmic radiation... so, How did the astronauts survive the deadly radiation B][SIZE=without [/SIZE][/B]the protection of the Van Allen belts when they were on the moon?

                    I really need an answer to that question... ?
                    That fact is wrong. lol

                    Our magnetic field protects us from radiation by trapping charged particles. The trapped particles are called the van allen belts.
                    The magnetic field is actually protecting us from those charged particles (the VAB).

                    And you still dont understand radiation or what materials act as a shield.


                    Alan Bean admitted it on camera.

                    btw, Bean is a aeronautical engineer and NASA astronaut

                    and get this... Commander Terry Virts (USAF), NASA Astronaut, admitted that we cannot leave earth orbit... because of the problem mentioned above... "GCR or its secondary radiation can get past mass shielding, unless the shielding is prohibitively thick - surpassing mass restrictions on a reasonable space vehicle."

                    Virts is a professional, doing his job... and his job is not to cover up wild stories that were told 50 years ago...

                    here is the interview...

                    "Well, that is a great question. The plan that NASA has is to build a rocket called [IZE="5"]SLS (Space Launch System) which is a heavy-lift rocket,[/SB] it is something that is much bigger than what we have today and it will be able to launch the Orion capsule with humans on board as well as landers or other components to destinations beyond earth orbit.

                    [][SIZE"]"Right now we can only fly in Earth orbit, that is the farthest that we can go. This new system that we are building is going to allow us to go beyond and hopefully take humans into the solar system to explore, so the Moon,[/SIZB] Mars, asteroids, there are a lot of destinations that we could go to and we're building these building block components in order to allow us to do that eventually.
                    "

                    No, you dont seem to understand...
                    I'll ask again...
                    Where does NASA admit to not designing any radiation shielding?

                    Where did he even mention radiation? lol

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by The Noose View Post
                      This is a quote from you...

                      I'll dumb it down for you...
                      beta particles are absorbed by light materials. So they act as shielding.
                      Aluminum is a low atomic weight material.
                      The ship was made from aluminum.

                      Question: Can aluminum be used to shield against radiation?

                      Really? lol

                      This big image you dont understand shows clearly aluminum stops beta particles. Even paper stops some radiation.

                      Did you read the title of that article?

                      "What's Holding Up Human Travel to Mars?"

                      Did we go to Mars 50 years ago?

                      That fact is wrong. lol

                      Our magnetic field protects us from radiation by trapping charged particles. The trapped particles are called the van allen belts.
                      The magnetic field is actually protecting us from those charged particles (the VAB).

                      And you still dont understand radiation or what materials act as a shield.

                      No, you dont seem to understand...
                      I'll ask again...
                      Where does NASA admit to not designing any radiation shielding?

                      Where did he even mention radiation? lol






                      I have a better idea...

                      just stay dumb... you nose-picking hillbilly


                      on earth:
                      " NEVER expose your skin to the sun... it can be deadly...
                      ... ALWAYS cover-up... and/or, ALWAYS apply sunscreen
                      "

                      thousands of miles closer to the sun, in the middle of a radiation belt:
                      " it's all good, nothing to worry about up here... no protection required "

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                      Last edited by aboutfkntime; 12-09-2019, 01:35 AM.

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