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Furthermore the majority of cases of myocarditis can be simply treated with a simple anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen.
Gulliain-Barre is a risk associated with all vaccinations and hasn't shown to be significantly more so with COVID than with any others although indeed it is part of the equation you should include when making your decision as should the risk of myocarditis.
With regards to EudraVigilance, just the same as with VAERs they cast a very wide net to ensure that they catch as much information about possible side effects as possible. What they do is record all reported instances of illness that occur following vaccination whether or not it's likely or even possible that they were caused by the vacciniantion. The screening process then analysises the data and investgates those instances where it seems possible or probable that the illness may have been caused by the vaccination. This is how things like the myocrditis and guillain barre were picked up of course. That simply shows the adverse reaction reporting systems were doing their job and should be a source of reassurance.
And no it's not only therapeutic, although it does produce better outcomes than any therapeutic option we have, even against delta it's starting at about 60% effectivenes and so has prevented millions of infections globally and 100000s of thousands at least in the US although you are correct that as many scientists warned effectiveness does wane over time.
And yes, boosters may or may not be useful or necessary for those who choose to take em... people who take the flu jabs do it every year and that is still vaccination... I'm not sure why you'd consuider this different? Any vaccine is in essence simply a mechanism for artificially inducing an immune response in order to prime your system against future infection. That is what the COVID vaccines do.
In terms of an 'end game' we simply do not know yet. Most epidemiologists seem to consider that most likely COVID will become an endemic backgrpound illness much like seasonal flu that will claim maybe a few hundred thousand lives each year, vaccination will likely be offered to the most vulnerable but is unlikely to be mandated any longer once most of the population already have some resistance... which of course begs the question of why do we take any precautions at all if the end game is we all get it anyway, and the answer is to keepsd eaths as low as possible in the meantime and prevent healthcare becoming overwhelmed which we result in greater injury and death.
In terms of testing, yes, it is ongoing but given the mass of data available after hundred of millions of vaccines have been given and perhaps the single most exhaustive and heavily scrutinised rollout in history (with far, far more rigorous tests done than were for the vaccine rollouts of the 50s and 60s which have all but eliminated many other diseases) it is now all but certain there are no immediate short or medium term threats that significantly change the cost / benefit balance of vaccination.
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At the end of the day if you were to say you're concerned about unknown future side effects there is ultimately nothing I could say to put your mind at ease, perhaps there will be although it terms of the theory behind the mRNA vaccines there's no immediately obvious reason to suspect this could be the case. So fair enough. What I can say is that based on all the available information across multiple agencies both national and international the risk of getting vaccinated are far lower than the potential risks associated with getting COVID, unless you're actually going to claim the staistics available from dozens of countries are simply made up for some nefarious reason there really isn't any question about that.
But sure, like I can say, I sympathise... it surely wouldn't be the first time there has been complications or unexpected side effects to medications so such a fear ain't irrational... on the flip side however what about the the fact that catching COVID and getting it seriously itself might lead to unexpected future side effects and complications? The threat of unknown consequences doesn't just work one way, man, and that should be part of our risk / reward considerations too.
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FWIW you'll be plased to hear Ms K is finally starting to recover and she drove again for the first time today in over two weeks although she's gone back to bed now. Whilst she's still very sceptical she has said that it's made her more aware that the risks ain't just about whether you die or not and that she's never been as ill in her life. She ain't exactly a convert but was starting to consider whether she should get vaccinated although I told her she should be cool for the time being since she already had it... what she did say was that she wouldn't warn anyone against vaccination any more even though she still don't trust that the whole pandemic was entirely natural.
Did you actually read the link you posted? Yes, myocarditis is an occasionally found side effect in a very large number of medications including both Ibuprofen, Aspirin and vaccines. If you didn't take medications based on their listed possible side effects you literally wouldn't take anything ever. Do you ever read the information leaflets that come inside medicine boxes, even OTC medications? Most of em got a list of potential side effects about as long as my arm.
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