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  • Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
    How is Maxine Waters not in prison for inciting riot and violence? This borders on jury and witness intimidation.

    Fiery California Rep. Maxine Waters joined hundreds of angry protesters who thronged Brooklyn Center, Minnesota early Sunday, all breaking the 11 p.m. curfew together during the seventh night of protestsagainst the police killing of Daunte Wright.

    “We’ve got to stay in the streets, and we’ve got to demand justice,” she urged the crowd, according to one tweeted clip.

    “We’re looking for a guilty verdict” in Derek Chauvin’s trial for the police killing of George Floyd, where deliberations will begin next week, she said.

    “And if we don’t, we cannot go away,” she added. “We’ve got to get more confrontational.”

    Asked about the curfew, she said, “I don’t know what curfew means,” according to another tweeted clip.
    She’s a privileged black woman.

    Thats why she gets away with her continuous race baiting.

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    • Originally posted by Alf Stewart View Post

      Neither did having **** loads of drugs in his system.

      Did Floyd deserve to die? NO.

      Was it murder? I don’t think so.


      Was Floyd a piece of **** person? Definitely.

      Was Chauvin caring about the condition of Floyd?? No

      Was Chauvin warned by the crowd he was killing Floyd? Yes

      Was Chauvin warned by Floyd that he could not breath? Yes

      Did Floyd deserve to die? No

      Did Chauvin commit murder? Yes

      Is Chauvin a piece of **** human being? Yes
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      • Originally posted by TonyGe View Post


        Was Chauvin caring about the condition of Floyd?? No

        Was Chauvin warned by the crowd he was killing Floyd? Yes

        Was Chauvin warned by Floyd that he could not breath? Yes

        Did Floyd deserve to die? No

        Did Chauvin commit murder? Yes

        Is Chauvin a piece of **** human being? Yes
        A police officer making an arrest against a large, drug addled criminal who was initially resisting arrest does not have to take notice of people in a crowd.

        Its a scenario imo in where you have a guy with copious amounts of deadly drugs in his system, committing a crime and being arrested all interacting into what became a bad result.

        By the way, if you can talk you can breath...

        No matter what the results of the case the racist criminal organisation of BurnLootMurder will riot.

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        • Originally posted by Alf Stewart View Post

          A police officer making an arrest against a large, drug addled criminal who was initially resisting arrest does not have to take notice of people in a crowd.

          Its a scenario imo in where you have a guy with copious amounts of deadly drugs in his system, committing a crime and being arrested all interacting into what became a bad result.

          By the way, if you can talk you can breath...

          No matter what the results of the case the racist criminal organisation of BurnLootMurder will riot.
          He used excessive force that led to Floyd's death. He has to pay the price. Nobody is above the law.
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          • Originally posted by TonyGe View Post


            The amount of drugs in his system was not a tremendous amount. Dr. Daniel Isenschmid an expert on toxoligy indicated that the drug levels in Floyd were rated in the lower side relate to people who were arrested for DUI and were alive. The fact that norfentanyl was in his system is significant. It's created when fentanyl is broken down by your body. The vast majority of people die from an overdose before this breakdown starts occuring.
            Again it’s a combination of factors. With arteries that were 75% clogged, an oversized heart and being under a high stress situation, the defense testimony said the fentanyl that was in his blood was sufficient in combination with those other factors to have caused Floyd’s death.

            Dr. David Fowler, a former chief medical examiner testified that George Floyd died due to his underlying heart disease -- not the police restraint.

            So with two opposing views, health issues, and drugs, how in the world are you going to convict someone beyond reasonable doubt for murder when this Doctors testimony alone is reasonable doubt.
            Last edited by JimRaynor; 04-18-2021, 09:37 PM.

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            • Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post

              Again it’s a combination of factors. With arteries that were 75% clogged, an oversized heart and being under a high stress situation, the defense testimony said the fentanyl that was in his blood was sufficient in combination with those other factors to have caused Floyd’s death.

              Dr. David Fowler, a former chief medical examiner testified that George Floyd died due to his underlying heart disease -- not the police restraint.

              So with two opposing views, health issues, and drugs, how in the world are you going to convict someone beyond reasonable doubt for murder when this Doctors testimony alone is reasonable doubt.
              Because only one was destroyed under cross examination.

              He claimed that no bruising shows it wasn't asphyxia, but agreed under cross-examination that in most cases there is no bruising when someone dies of asphyxia, admit that he misrepresented studies he relied on, that he had no proof at all regarding carbon monoxide (and that the evidence they do have speaks to it not being a factor), that the officers should have provided immediate medical help, agreed Floyd wasn't exhibiting outward symptoms of a Fentanyl overdose.

              Fowler was destroyed.
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              • Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post

                Again it’s a combination of factors. With arteries that were 75% clogged, an oversized heart and being under a high stress situation, the defense testimony said the fentanyl that was in his blood was sufficient in combination with those other factors to have caused Floyd’s death.

                Dr. David Fowler, a former chief medical examiner testified that George Floyd died due to his underlying heart disease -- not the police restraint.

                So with two opposing views, health issues, and drugs, how in the world are you going to convict someone beyond reasonable doubt for murder when this Doctors testimony alone is reasonable doubt.
                I was on a jury that dealt with an infant that was abused by the parents. The father was on trial the mother had already been to trial. The problem was it wasn't crystal clear which one had really caused the damage. The evidence pointed more to the father but the mother had already admitted guilt to punching the baby in the face while it was the bassinet in a previous incident. The child was left paralyzed for life. It had to be fed from a tube. It was blind and could barely move it's limbs. There were books on brain damage found in the apartment. When the doctors examined the child they found cracks in the skull that were healed over from previous injuries hence the books.. When we went into deliberation the unspoken consensus was nobody gave a damn at that point who did it. . They both knew about the previous assaults and the child was not protected or moved to a safe place. We found him guilty. It took about an hour. I suspect a similar thing is going to happen here. I believe the prosecution is 100% correct. Floyd was asphyxiated. If he died from another cause well it's irrelevant because he was a dead man either way. Second degree murder is the appropriate decision.
                Last edited by TonyGe; 04-18-2021, 11:24 PM.

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                • Originally posted by TonyGe View Post

                  He used excessive force that led to Floyd's death. He has to pay the price. Nobody is above the law.
                  Never said they were but it wasn’t Murder with intent.

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                  • Originally posted by Alf Stewart View Post

                    Never said they were but it wasn’t Murder with intent.
                    Jesus Christ, man. I feel like a broken record. Chauvin is on trial for UNINTENTIONAL murder.
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                    • In case you’re completely oblivious to the truth, there’s actually “BLM” advocates and self proclaimed George Floyd supporters that are hoping Chauvin gets let off, just so they have a perceived “good” reason to cause mayhem.
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