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  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post

    Fair enough. Though I have to say that if you are unconvinced that Chauvin deserves murder charges at this point where the prosecutors have completed their arguments, then it's safe to say the defense won't convince you of that. So already we can conclude that you think it would be unjust if he were found guilty of murder. Personally, I find that to be outrageous, but you are welcome to your opinion.
    You seem to have made up your mind and don't won't to hear anything that might mitigate your thinking. I prefer to do the principled thing and hear all sides before making up my mind. That would seem to be the the morally correct thing to do. Also, the jury will in my opinion render the correct verdict. Anything reported by the media is always slanted (for or against) to bring you to the conclusion they want. The jury hears it direct and unfiltered. You are also welcome to your opinion, after all it is only your opinion.
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    • Originally posted by OldTerry View Post

      You seem to have made up your mind and don't won't to hear anything that might mitigate your thinking. I prefer to do the principled thing and hear all sides before making up my mind. That would seem to be the the morally correct thing to do. Also, the jury will in my opinion render the correct verdict. Anything reported by the media is always slanted (for or against) to bring you to the conclusion they want. The jury hears it direct and unfiltered. You are also welcome to your opinion, after all it is only your opinion.
      That's not true at all. I'm completely willing to hear anything that might mitigate my thinking. That's the reason I've been basically asking you what you are seeing that makes you think murder charges are an overreach. You made that statement just 2 days ago, so you must have based that on something. I was just wondering, if you already believe murder charges are an overreach, what do you expect the defense team to do to move your position? Obviously your mind is made up on that matter at this point, no?

      So I was simply making it clear that I'm very open to hearing what convinced you of that.
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      • Originally posted by Zaroku View Post

        I’m trying to contextual in these legal proceedings..

        what do you know about American jurisprudence??
        I want that pink azz puto hung...

        ive already made up my mind..
        I actually been in trial, I lost,

        brither saibl in civil court my Jew lawyers said, the standard of review is preponderance of the evidence..
        in
        brother Saiblo, if some dude resisted arrest in Jamaica what would happen?

        if you resist arrest in japan, and Mexico you gonna get ****ed up
        They resist arrest all the time down here.

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        • Originally posted by OldTerry View Post

          You seem to have made up your mind and don't won't to hear anything that might mitigate your thinking. I prefer to do the principled thing and hear all sides before making up my mind. That would seem to be the the morally correct thing to do. Also, the jury will in my opinion render the correct verdict. Anything reported by the media is always slanted (for or against) to bring you to the conclusion they want. The jury hears it direct and unfiltered. You are also welcome to your opinion, after all it is only your opinion.
          Red - want*

          Be brave and stop beating around the bush. So posters on here can see that you are on Rockin's level.

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          • America says one thing does the other.
            people becoming really messed up

            i fear the police... they got guns, back up, are funny crazy...
            I especially fear Mexican cops... beat you up ask questions later.

            already said in japan, no phone calls, rights

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            • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
              Defence witness caught making BS up. He said a dr in a study retracted his statement when he didn't. Credibility gone. Also for making assumptions, talking about carbon monoxide from the car exhaust and he didn't even know if the car was on.
              This expert is being sued over his co signing a report in a very similar case.


              Fowler and his assistant "intentionally concealed police responsibility in causing Anton Black's painful death, and instead falsely ruled, on behalf of the State of Maryland, that a Black teenager who died through asphyxiation at the hands of four white men resulted from 'natural causes,' or 'accident' thereby improperly insulating police officials from responsibility for Anton's death," the lawsuit says.

              https://ca.news.yahoo.com/forensic-p...183730964.html

              https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/...olice-custody/
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              • Originally posted by HrNY View Post

                https://nypost.com/2021/04/14/chauvi...-floyds-death/ could be a factor. not the thing that killed him but besides his heart problems, drugs, etc, quite possibly could b another factor.
                Defense gonna be out there saying climate change, fluoride in the water & cuz he ate a cheeseburger with extra cheese the previous day are contributing factors too I bet. Couldn't of been anything silly like a guy pushing his knee into the guys neck. That don't even make sense. Knees on necks killing someone. Be serious. Obviously these nearly a dozen random things came together all at once to send this guy to Jesus.
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                • Originally posted by TonyGe View Post

                  I agree that Chauvin probably did not show up to commit a crime. However premeditation is not a requisite for murder. If you look at the definition of murder premeditation is reserved for first degree murder.

                  Second degree and third murder which Chauvin is charged with do not involve premeditation. They are appropriate charges due to his conduct. I personally think he is guilty of second degree murder. I don't think a verdict of manslaughter is a fair judgement of what happened and would be an outrageous verdict.
                  I would call that negligent homicide too, but that type of situation aligns more with how that charge is generally applied, to my understanding. He fired his gun, which is without argument, deadly force, and had no idea who or what he was going to hit.

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                  • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post

                    I would call that negligent homicide too, but that type of situation aligns more with how that charge is generally applied, to my understanding. He fired his gun, which is without argument, deadly force, and had no idea who or what he was going to hit.
                    Well they didn't charge him with first degree murder. Like I posted previously I don't believe he arrived at the scene with the intent of killing anyone but it could be argued that during the course of the arrest he made a decision to murder Floyd. Hard to believe for people that have an innate trust that the police will do the right thing but it is a possibility. I truly believe Chauvin is a psychopath. I'm not the only one.

                    https://youtu.be/-Gkz5pCKrwk
                    Last edited by TonyGe; 04-14-2021, 11:05 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by TonyGe View Post

                      Well they didn't charge him with first degree murder. Like I posted previously I don't believe he arrived at the scene with the intent of killing anyone but it could be argued that during the course of the arrest he made a decision to murder Floyd. Hard to believe for people that have an innate trust that the police will do the right thing but it is a possibility. I truly believe Chauvin is a psychopath. I'm not the only one.

                      https://youtu.be/-Gkz5pCKrwk
                      What that guy is describing would still be 2nd degree murder.

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