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  • #11
    Originally posted by LarryX.... View Post
    1-The Confederates won the war

    2-Columbus actually landed in India
    India would be eating Turkey and stuffing in November.

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    • #12
      So I needs to lie vetted to ctkersFamily so I can fumjjjk Yu the em pinay cub xlutsIs Hors grizzle **** so what is wrong if life is an art then so a big(google don’t get ghetto)

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      • #13
        The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo signed on February 2, 1848, ended the war between the United States and Mexico. ... By its terms, Mexico ceded 55 percent of its territory, including parts of present-day Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Nevada, and Utah, to the United States.

        My family on my maternal grandmother can trace her family roots to Califas (California) 100 years before the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

        This means Mexico/Spain/Mexico and probably the Aztec empire before Mexico. We never left.

        The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo gave Mexicans the right to remain in United States territory or to move to Mexico. ... These people could choose to retain Mexican citizenship or become citizens of the United States.

        We never left.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

          Grant was considered a butcher back then too for pushing on and getting so many of his own men killed. Lee was a military genius as you put it, Stonewall Jackson was also another great general. Grant was able to push forward with unlimited troops as you mentioned. He was not a well liked man until after the war
          Its a heinious way of winning a war... along with Sherman's burning every damn thing. But it is ethically in bounds as a strategy. Its just that in days gone by there were more options for the common soldger. In Japan you gave your weakest troops "length" with a spear. This length equalized them against a superior opponent with a sword. Eventually that sword became a Rokushaku Bo (six foot staff) that served as a great fighting weapon in the reconstruction period of Japan (Nara/ Eido). One could even hide a blade in these staffs for transport. Of course there were schools of combat that focused on stick weapons, Haliberds, etc. Its just that teaching the stick was soooo much easier than teaching the blade.

          But in the United States Civil War, there was little recourse for a soldger who was not special. And unlike clean cuts which would mostly kill quickly, or present a neat wound... The damn firearms would crudely blow into a person... Creating the worse, messy holes in people. People died horribly.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by LarryX.... View Post
            1-The Confederates won the war

            2-Columbus actually landed in India
            You would not be commenting here at this time.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by TJ highway View Post
              The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo signed on February 2, 1848, ended the war between the United States and Mexico. ... By its terms, Mexico ceded 55 percent of its territory, including parts of present-day Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Nevada, and Utah, to the United States.

              My family on my maternal grandmother can trace her family roots to Califas (California) 100 years before the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

              This means Mexico/Spain/Mexico and probably the Aztec empire before Mexico. We never left.

              The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo gave Mexicans the right to remain in United States territory or to move to Mexico. ... These people could choose to retain Mexican citizenship or become citizens of the United States.

              We never left.
              Interesting note about this situation. Land grants from Spain were used in Mexico. Basically all land belonged to the Spanish king, and people were granted use of the land. expedientes were the term for these grants. These grants were used, and are still used in certain situations with federal lands. The ranchers in California were often granted an easement that went with these grants to graze their livestock on federal lands. One of the big issues in the ranching community is how the government went back on agreements made regarding these easements. This "Indian giving" was not only in California, but also in Nevada and maybe (not sure) even in Washington state.

              I don't know how much land is still titled under this system, but I would imagine there is a substantial amount. The government is supposed to honor easements that were granted to ranching families, some of whom date back to when the land was owned by the Monarch, but the federal government has not honored these contracts and have virtually driven the big ranchers out of business. They want to charge these ranchers for grazing, so money from states like Nevada and California, in rural areas, can be taken and given to inner cities like Baltimore and Philadelphia.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by TJ highway View Post
                The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo signed on February 2, 1848, ended the war between the United States and Mexico. ... By its terms, Mexico ceded 55 percent of its territory, including parts of present-day Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Nevada, and Utah, to the United States.

                My family on my maternal grandmother can trace her family roots to Califas (California) 100 years before the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

                This means Mexico/Spain/Mexico and probably the Aztec empire before Mexico. We never left.

                The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo gave Mexicans the right to remain in United States territory or to move to Mexico. ... These people could choose to retain Mexican citizenship or become citizens of the United States.

                We never left.
                Very true. No 1 realizes this. Many Mexicans are "Native Americans" and dont have the luxuary of collecting Casino money. Mexicans also never embraced slavery and assisted the North in abolishing slavery.

                Its ok, Tortillas are sold more than bread in the USA and White dudes like Caleb Plant ride Lowriders. Slowly but surely brother... lol

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post

                  Very true. No 1 realizes this. Many Mexicans are "Native Americans" and dont have the luxuary of collecting Casino money. Mexicans also never embraced slavery and assisted the North in abolishing slavery.

                  Its ok, Tortillas are sold more than bread in the USA and White dudes like Caleb Plant ride Lowriders. Slowly but surely brother... lol
                  And... Salsa overtook Ketchup as the number one food condiment used in the USA!

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                    And... Salsa overtook Ketchup as the number one food condiment used in the USA!
                    My son has a white GF (taller than him lol) we joke with him when he comes home after dinner at their house and ask him if he had "Hamburger Helper?" but many times they make Mexican dishes haha!

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
                      I'd still be going to Jeff Davis Highway to pick up hoes rather than Richmond Highway
                      The wrong side won that war. I still get hard dreaming of bouncing Beyonc? off my dong

                      some of my early posts were about slavery


                      and a white man who

                      John H. Brown (May 9, 1800 – December 2, 1859) was an American abolitionist leader. Brown felt that violence was necessary to end American slavery, as years of speeches, sermons, petitions, and moral persuasion had failed. An intensely religious man, Brown believed he was raised up by God to strike the death blow to American slavery.[1] "He also believed that in all ages of the world God had created certain men to perform special work in some direction far in advance of their countrymen, even at the cost of their lives. He believed that among his earthly missions was to free the American slave...and it must be performed. He was very strict in his religious duties and he regarded this as sacred.[2]:189 "I am an instrument of God


                      ppl in Africa think blacks in America are silly

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