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    I recently watched some videos on the “professional losers” and it got me thinking, do they also train 6 days a week 4 hours a day plus roadwork or do they only go like twice a week to train and have full time jobs on the side. It’s funny nowadays they’re called Uber drivers. And If they do train 6x a week why do they suck that much

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    Just like anything else in life. There are many doctors who did all of their medical studies but still suck. Only top 5% contribute to new medicine and technology. The rest just hold knowledge of which they cannot really apply. Or their mindset and philosophy is hampered by any personality flaws humans withhold. You've been driving for what? 5+ years? But you're not an F1 driver, now are you? A lot of times it isn't how hard you work, or how much you know. These general people work hard, like you posted, but they do not achieve. The results just aren't there. No matter how hard you work, you can be totally misguided in how you set a foundation and everything.

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    • #3
      Interesting question & like with anything I bet it matters on the guy. But I feel like its less than high level guys on average. I mean I imagine many of them arent even full time boxers like that to be able to train like a high level guy does. There are numerous guys with things going on that still need to work a regular job to make ends meet so the guys without much going on surely have to maintain a regular job more often than not.

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      • #4
        Yeah man I feel like they’re called Uber drivers cause they literally have a full time job and other side jobs like Uber just to make ends meet and they don’t have the time or money to train much, because they lose and only make like 2k a fight

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
          Interesting question & like with anything I bet it matters on the guy. But I feel like its less than high level guys on average. I mean I imagine many of them arent even full time boxers like that to be able to train like a high level guy does. There are numerous guys with things going on that still need to work a regular job to make ends meet so the guys without much going on surely have to maintain a regular job more often than not.
          Joe Smith was working construction not long ago, while training for some pretty high profile fights, wasn't he? Seems like a hard ask to work a physical job while training for a fight with high caliber fighters.

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          • #6
            I's just very disrespectful fans that call them insulting names. Many of them train like champions but they just don't have the talent to be a champion or a top contender. For every guy with an undefeated record there has to be lots of lesser guys for them to build that unbeaten record with.

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            • #7
              some people are just naturally more talented then others and will do better in different sports or areas in life in general

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              • #8
                Before and after work!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pkety View Post
                  I recently watched some videos on the “professional losers” and it got me thinking, do they also train 6 days a week 4 hours a day plus roadwork or do they only go like twice a week to train and have full time jobs on the side. It’s funny nowadays they’re called Uber drivers. And If they do train 6x a week why do they suck that much



                  some fighters who people refer to as journeymen, or cans...

                  train just as hard - or nearly as hard - as top professionals

                  they train next to them, in the same gym... with the same trainer

                  they just aren't as good

                  not all... just some

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dranoel View Post
                    Just like anything else in life. There are many doctors who did all of their medical studies but still suck. Only top 5% contribute to new medicine and technology. The rest just hold knowledge of which they cannot really apply. Or their mindset and philosophy is hampered by any personality flaws humans withhold. You've been driving for what? 5+ years? But you're not an F1 driver, now are you? A lot of times it isn't how hard you work, or how much you know. These general people work hard, like you posted, but they do not achieve. The results just aren't there. No matter how hard you work, you can be totally misguided in how you set a foundation and everything.


                    yep

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