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  • If you're negotiating in public you aren't trying to make the fight

    I think that's the lesson to be learned with the Canelo/Jacobs fight. No public negotiations. The fight was made behind the scenes.

    De La Hoya made a public announcement about the GGG fight while knowing this gift was all but signed.

    Hearn has been in public negotiating AJ's fight but never said anything about this fight because he was making a serious effort to get it signed.
    Last edited by Motorcity Cobra; 01-18-2019, 12:08 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
    I think that's the lesson to be learned with the GGG/Jacobs fight. No public negotiations. The fight was made behind the scenes.

    De La Hoya made a public announcement about the GGG fight while knowing this gift was all but signed.

    Hearn has been in public negotiating AJ's fight but never said anything about this fight because he was making a serious effort to get it signed.
    Well he can't negotiate with team Wilder when they don't even respond can he?

    Then you get Wilder fans and certain pro Wilder people saying it is AJ who doesnt want the fight so Hearn makes it public, stating this is not the case and discloses the offers to prove otherwise and I don't blame him.

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    • #3
      Another case of this: Eddie Hearn has often been caught out making claims in interviews and press conferences that simply aren't true. Too many cases of independant fighters/managers/promoters he claims to have made offers to having a different story than the one he is pushing. Tis a distraction and diversion tactic. Telling us what he thinks we wanna hear whilst he's probably had plans in place the whole time.

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      • #4
        Wilder's team were the ones that started public negotiations with Hearn. Guess they didn't want the fight. They were the ones reading out emails and ****, sending bs 50 mil offers with 24 hour deadlines and telling the press etc.

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        • #5
          Nah i think this is the greatest thing ever, You can quote him! Thats if they want to negotiate now not in 10 months time, You can quote his offer. You cannot hide after that interviews that he gave. He spoke to everyone, he made those LDBC guys look uneducated with their dumb "Tough doe line of questioning". You literally can quote every single one of his words and use it against him, rather than the guy that claimed they accept the 15m offer, then 5 months down the line "Nope we didn't accept" the offer...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by W1LL View Post
            Another case of this: Eddie Hearn has often been caught out making claims in interviews and press conferences that simply aren't true. Too many cases of independant fighters/managers/promoters he claims to have made offers to having a different story than the one he is pushing. Tis a distraction and diversion tactic. Telling us what he thinks we wanna hear whilst he's probably had plans in place the whole time.
            Give us some examples.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
              I think that's the lesson to be learned with the GGG/Jacobs fight. No public negotiations. The fight was made behind the scenes.

              De La Hoya made a public announcement about the GGG fight while knowing this gift was all but signed.

              Hearn has been in public negotiating AJ's fight but never said anything about this fight because he was making a serious effort to get it signed.
              Yeah I agree, it shows Wilder and Finkel have never wanted to fight AJ.

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              • #8
                I have mixed feelings. Would you consider Jack Johnson's following Tommy Burns around as a negotiations ploy?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                  I think that's the lesson to be learned with the GGG/Jacobs fight. No public negotiations. The fight was made behind the scenes.

                  De La Hoya made a public announcement about the GGG fight while knowing this gift was all but signed.

                  Hearn has been in public negotiating AJ's fight but never said anything about this fight because he was making a serious effort to get it signed.
                  And if you are negotiating in public, but refusing to talk to the other side behind the scenes, you aren't trying to make the fight.

                  That's the lesson we learned from Wilder and Finkel's $50million offer to AJ via social media.

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                  • #10
                    That’s seems true

                    Every interview Lou Dibella gives the last year or so he says the same thing. Fights don’t get negotiated in public

                    The Canelo / Jacobs fight is a perfect example

                    When a promoter negotiates through the public it’s just them trying to control a narrative that doesn’t put them at fault and pleases their fighters fanbase

                    As far as AJ fighting Wilder or Fury , Joe Gallagher summed it up perfectly on the toe 2 toe podcast this week

                    Basically saying AJs the Aside and has all the power if he really wanted to fight either next he’d demand that Hearn make he fight and it’d happen.

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