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    I've never done a list or even seen one like this before, but who are your top 10 heavies based on social impact, good or bad? Explain your choices please.

    Choices were getting thin towards the bottom so I may have been reaching.

    10. Lennox Lewis-The first British heavyweight to hold the title and be known as a champion by the world and not just the Brits (see Frank Bruno).

    9. Tommy Burns-Had the distinction of being the man to give up the heavyweight championship to the first black heavyweight champion in history and change the sport forever.

    8. Max Schmeling-While nothing he did as champion stands out, his win and loss to Louis helped set and destroy a symbol of Nazi power.

    7. Rocky Marciano-retired undefeated and was the last white American to be the undisputed champ. His name is synonymous with the heavyweight title.

    6. John L. Sullivan-The first gloved champion and a certified star of his era. Everyone knew who the Boston string boy was.

    5. Joe Louis-His win over Schmeling was a crushing defeat to Nazi propaganda and his patriotic devotion made him loved by blacks and whites alike during a turbulent time in the countries history.

    4. Mike Tyson-His star burned so bright everybody in the world knew his name and stopped to watch him fight. They also stopped to watch his tragedies and turbulent life as if it were a car wreck.

    3. Jack Johnson-The first black heavyweight champion and its most despised during his reign. So hated that white America actively pursued a "white hope" to wipe the golden smile of his face.

    2. Muhammad Ali-Never had a fighter gone from being so disliked to so beloved. His stance on Vietnam brought a surreal amount of disdain for Ali. But his first loss to Frazier proved his conviction and courage so much the masses got behind him. He went from one end of the spectrum to the other and did it with flair not seen before or since.

    1. Jack Dempsey-No fighter was ever so revered in their era. Never did so many people flock to see one man fight. So popular was Dempsey that his name alone conjures up images of the roaring twenties.

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    When I saw the title, I was thinking that this list surely could only contain heavies. I would have Ali on top and Dempsey second. Then Louis, Tyson and Johnson.

    The rest would have to have more thought. I would probably have Jeffries on the list. Marciano also. Foreman as well given his remarkable movement for the +40 year olds.

    Now if there had to be a non-heavy on the list then who? Robinson perhaps, but I reckon that De La Hoya surpasses him.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
      When I saw the title, I was thinking that this list surely could only contain heavies. I would have Ali on top and Dempsey second. Then Louis, Tyson and Johnson.

      The rest would have to have more thought. I would probably have Jeffries on the list. Marciano also. Foreman as well given his remarkable movement for the +40 year olds.

      Now if there had to be a non-heavy on the list then who? Robinson perhaps, but I reckon that De La Hoya surpasses him.
      It should have said just heavyweights. I copied from a thread I did 5 years ago in NSB. Thought it may get some good responses here.

      I like the addition of Foreman, that's a really good call.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
        Tommy Burns-Had the distinction of being the man to give up the heavyweight championship to the first black heavyweight champion in history and change the sport forever.
        I was surprised to see Tommy Burns’s name in a top 10-list other than the usual “worst heavyweight champ ever” …

        Although Jack followed him everywhere, in those days Burns could have denied Jack a fight without losing too much of his pride and reputation. But he didn’t.

        Burns deserves his top 10-spot.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
          I've never done a list or even seen one like this before, but who are your top 10 heavies based on social impact, good or bad? Explain your choices please.

          Choices were getting thin towards the bottom so I may have been reaching.

          10. Lennox Lewis-The first British heavyweight to hold the title and be known as a champion by the world and not just the Brits (see Frank Bruno).

          9. Tommy Burns-Had the distinction of being the man to give up the heavyweight championship to the first black heavyweight champion in history and change the sport forever.

          8. Max Schmeling-While nothing he did as champion stands out, his win and loss to Louis helped set and destroy a symbol of Nazi power.

          7. Rocky Marciano-retired undefeated and was the last white American to be the undisputed champ. His name is synonymous with the heavyweight title.

          6. John L. Sullivan-The first gloved champion and a certified star of his era. Everyone knew who the Boston string boy was.

          5. Joe Louis-His win over Schmeling was a crushing defeat to Nazi propaganda and his patriotic devotion made him loved by blacks and whites alike during a turbulent time in the countries history.

          4. Mike Tyson-His star burned so bright everybody in the world knew his name and stopped to watch him fight. They also stopped to watch his tragedies and turbulent life as if it were a car wreck.

          3. Jack Johnson-The first black heavyweight champion and its most despised during his reign. So hated that white America actively pursued a "white hope" to wipe the golden smile of his face.

          2. Muhammad Ali-Never had a fighter gone from being so disliked to so beloved. His stance on Vietnam brought a surreal amount of disdain for Ali. But his first loss to Frazier proved his conviction and courage so much the masses got behind him. He went from one end of the spectrum to the other and did it with flair not seen before or since.

          1. Jack Dempsey-No fighter was ever so revered in their era. Never did so many people flock to see one man fight. So popular was Dempsey that his name alone conjures up images of the roaring twenties.
          I'm guessing your a yank? lol

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          • #6
            Maybe Joe Frazier over Lennox Lewis, and I'm a huge Lewis fan. Can't help but think of Frazier whenever Ali is mentioned, and as big a star as Ali was, he needed Joe to help trancsend himself onto that other level that only a few can reach.

            I got to say as well, that being a brit and seeing it from this side of the pond, Joshua has already exceeded Lewis in terms of his social impact on the sport and it's incredible how so many have embraced him and the sport of boxing.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Archie_Leach View Post
              I'm guessing your a yank? lol
              I'm guessing you're an alt.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                I'm guessing you're an alt.
                No, this is my only account.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Archie_Leach View Post
                  No, this is my only account.
                  I'm sure it is....now.

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                  • #10
                    --- Know josh is popular but don't know his social impact other than to go to the Rio Olympic hellhole to mentor the team.

                    And Fury calls him a plastic Nigerian and promises to carry the flag of Nigeria when they fight, hilarious stuff.

                    What's Furys social impact? Negative or positive? He's always been the big overgrown kid like Ali always spouting nonsense nonstop.

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