So is it a bad thing to sign with a promoter now?

[WarVeteranO01]

Seems like it, thoughts?

[Ray*]

Depends, at some point of your career you are going to need some help. Whether its a promoter/manager or adviser. But there comes a point when you don't need one. Some fighters reach that point earlier on in their careers, whilst some do so later on in their careers.

[McNulty]

Seems like it, thoughts?

I think Promoters are completely necessary. Boxers don't have enough hours in the day to get all this work done. Sure Garcia is doing it, but he's actually a pretty smart dude and has access to a Boxing family and tons of contacts. Even still, he's been very inactive and losing his good years.

You got to look at history, RJJ failed miserably in his matchmaking.

Who's doing so good in your opninion to warrant such a question?

[WarVeteranO01]

I think Promoters are completely necessary. Boxers don't have enough hours in the day to get all this work done. Sure Garcia is doing it, but he's actually a pretty smart dude and has access to a Boxing family and tons of contacts. Even still, he's been very inactive and losing his good years.

You got to look at history, RJJ failed miserably in his matchmaking.

Who's doing so good in your opninion to warrant such a question?

Mybad it seems like I insinuated that having a promoter was a bad thing. I meant it moreso as to what the current boxers mindset. I was reading an article earlier about all the guys that turned down GBP to fight Cotto and personally I thought 1 of them wouldve jumped at a chance to beat an old Cotto, especially a guy like Danny Garcia.

[bluebeam]

I think Promoters are completely necessary. Boxers don't have enough hours in the day to get all this work done. Sure Garcia is doing it, but he's actually a pretty smart dude and has access to a Boxing family and tons of contacts. Even still, he's been very inactive and losing his good years.

You got to look at history, RJJ failed miserably in his matchmaking.

Who's doing so good in your opninion to warrant such a question?

canelo is the only guy with a promoter that is making big bucks.

nobody at top rank is raking in big bucks
nobody at GBP besides canelo is raking in big bucks
nobody at K2 is raking in big bucks

the pbc guys average a million dollars per fight without a promoter, which is more than Crawford and the same as golovkin and they have promoters.

social media is the new promoter

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

canelo is the only guy with a promoter that is making big bucks.

nobody at top rank is raking in big bucks
nobody at GBP besides canelo is raking in big bucks
nobody at K2 is raking in big bucks

the pbc guys average a million dollars per fight without a promoter, which is more than Crawford and the same as golovkin and they have promoters.

social media is the new promoter

Broner and Garcia both made a million dollars last fight. Spence will make 3.5 million in his next fight. Khan made 2 million his last fight. Garcia and Thurman made 2 million dollars in there last fight. Klitschko makes a ton of money also. He basically promotes his self. Who at Golden Boy Promotions is making that kind of money besides Canelo?

[The Big Dunn]

Some fighters need a promoter, other do not. A promoter is good fro a young fighter and one that has a hard time filling seats. If a fighter reaches the peak of a Floyd, Manny, ODH, GGG, Canelo, Tyson or some other top draws, you can argue they do not need a promoter anymore.

[sicko]

Depends on a fighter! I think the best thing for a fighter to do is just to fight as much as they can, build up a following and let a network come find you and offer you a exclusive deal with their Network which is basically what happened to Jacobs

Fighters have to be very patient though, Fame and Super Stardom is not going to happen quickly. It took Mayweather and Pacquiao YEARS to reach the levels they reached.

Things are happening fast for AJ because AJ won a Gold Medal during they year his Country was Hosting the Olympics so the moment started early for him

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

I think Promoters are completely necessary. Boxers don't have enough hours in the day to get all this work done. Sure Garcia is doing it, but he's actually a pretty smart dude and has access to a Boxing family and tons of contacts. Even still, he's been very inactive and losing his good years.

You got to look at history, RJJ failed miserably in his matchmaking.

Who's doing so good in your opninion to warrant such a question?

Garcia was inactive when he had a promoter. Since he shook his promoter he fought twice this year won a title and earned more money then he did in his last 3 fights under Arum.

Anthony Joshua doesn’t need a promoter. Neither does Broner or Errol Spence. Robert Guerrero made 3 million in 2 fights without a promoter lol.

[McNulty]

Broner and Garcia both made a million dollars last fight. Spence will make 3.5 million in his next fight. Khan made 2 million his last fight. Garcia and Thurman made 2 million dollars in there last fight. Klitschko makes a ton of money also. He basically promotes his self. Who at Golden Boy Promotions is making that kind of money besides Canelo?

GBP has lost a lot of fighters to Haymon recently.

Whoever (Haymon) is paying Spence 3.5 million bucks is losing money on the fight. I think we all know that. I think the idea' is to spike the Spence brand in hopes of getting future earnings.

Amir Khan is still with GBP.
Source: http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/e...amir-khan-king

Klitschko's have been with K2:
Source: http://k2promos.com/about-us/

I thought Klitschko's owned K2, but I think I'm mistaken as Tom Loeffler owns it?

Haymon is making these guys a lot of money. But lets not get it twisted, his fighters aren't promoting themselves so they have to be piggy-backing off another promotional company. So some of the top cats are switching promoters for Haymon (Manager), but you got to have decent stock to do that.

Times are changing for sure. I'm for whatever gets the fighter the most money because they're putting their lives on the line to entertain us.