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  • how has ggg v canelo somehow turned into a 50/50 fight?

    Have i missed something? Know a couple of years ago it was heavily in favour of golovkin winning but now lots of people are sitting on the fence. Do people genuinely not have the ability to think further back than someones last performance?

    You all did this with kovalev, after he didnt look great against an awkward chilemba he got written off, talk of him being 'exposed'.

    Fighters can have nights where they dont look great. Jacobs was a tough fighter and stylistically light years different to canelo. GGG didnt look sensational but he got the win.

    Fact is canelo hasnt been in with a live body for a while. Im not counting the washed up smaller cotto as a legit test either, first of all he was past prime and he had no business fighting at canelo weight. Only reason he was fighting above welterweight is because he got ran out of town by pacquiao, a tiny welterweight who beat him to a pulp. A tiny welterweight who managed to get him out of there, yet the supposedly big power punching canelo couldnt do that?

    Hes not beaten a proper middleweight yet? How can people be so impressed with his recent activity? He hasnt beat a proper middleweight but hes meant to go in against golovkin and do a job on him?

    I keep hearing how hes improved so much, but to me his opposition has diminished. WOuld the canelo of a few years ago have struggled with khan, smith, kirkland and chavez jr? Im pretty sure he was beating them types of guys a long time ago so how can people be so sure hes improved?

    The big difference is firepower. For some reason people are pretending there isnt a size difference but unless my eyes are deceiving me, golovkin is significantly larger and despite what people on here say, his power is a hell of a lot more proven.

    We just saw canelos power doesnt carry up. He literally had a punchbag in front of him for 12 rounds and he couldnt drop him, let alone get him out of there. The shots just bounced off him. Just as the shots will bounce off golovkin. To be honest was he ever considered a power puncher until he beat kirkland and khan, the two chinniest fighters going? Is that what it takes to be considered a power puncher, shatter two glass jaws? Yet not display that pop in pretty much all the other big fights hes had?

    I dont understand how if jacobs, lemiuex, stevens all couldnt hurt him, that canelo who couldnt get miguel cotto out of there is going to be able to hurt him? Really? Even shot old mosley went the distance.

    Canelos got some tidy combinations sure. But his footwork is poor and slow. Hes not that elusive. With his style he would need to outgun golovkin and hes not capable of doing that.

    The fight might not look that dissimilar to golovkin v brook. I think canelo will have more success than brook, but the patterns going to remain. A skilled guy who is ultimately outgunned not having the footwork to get out of danger, and not having the power to keep golovkin off of him. He will have some early success but he will get broken down.

  • #2
    dude damn!!! people think Canelo can win.......GET OVER IT!!! stop acting so damn entitled and thinking no one can ever pick against GGG. CANELO IS A DAMN GOOD FIGHTER AND GETS BETTER EVERY FIGHT. GGG's lack of competitive fights were shown when he faced Jacobs which was truly his first real test..GGG isa not this unbeatable fighter ya'll wanna make him out to be
    Last edited by Larry the boss; 05-15-2017, 06:13 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
      Have i missed something? Know a couple of years ago it was heavily in favour of golovkin winning but now lots of people are sitting on the fence. Do people genuinely not have the ability to think further back than someones last performance?

      You all did this with kovalev, after he didnt look great against an awkward chilemba he got written off, talk of him being 'exposed'.

      Fighters can have nights where they dont look great. Jacobs was a tough fighter and stylistically light years different to canelo. GGG didnt look sensational but he got the win.

      Fact is canelo hasnt been in with a live body for a while. Im not counting the washed up smaller cotto as a legit test either, first of all he was past prime and he had no business fighting at canelo weight. Only reason he was fighting above welterweight is because he got ran out of town by pacquiao, a tiny welterweight who beat him to a pulp. A tiny welterweight who managed to get him out of there, yet the supposedly big power punching canelo couldnt do that?

      Hes not beaten a proper middleweight yet? How can people be so impressed with his recent activity? He hasnt beat a proper middleweight but hes meant to go in against golovkin and do a job on him?

      I keep hearing how hes improved so much, but to me his opposition has diminished. WOuld the canelo of a few years ago have struggled with khan, smith, kirkland and chavez jr? Im pretty sure he was beating them types of guys a long time ago so how can people be so sure hes improved?

      The big difference is firepower. For some reason people are pretending there isnt a size difference but unless my eyes are deceiving me, golovkin is significantly larger and despite what people on here say, his power is a hell of a lot more proven.

      We just saw canelos power doesnt carry up. He literally had a punchbag in front of him for 12 rounds and he couldnt drop him, let alone get him out of there. The shots just bounced off him. Just as the shots will bounce off golovkin. To be honest was he ever considered a power puncher until he beat kirkland and khan, the two chinniest fighters going? Is that what it takes to be considered a power puncher, shatter two glass jaws? Yet not display that pop in pretty much all the other big fights hes had?

      I dont understand how if jacobs, lemiuex, stevens all couldnt hurt him, that canelo who couldnt get miguel cotto out of there is going to be able to hurt him? Really? Even shot old mosley went the distance.

      Canelos got some tidy combinations sure. But his footwork is poor and slow. Hes not that elusive. With his style he would need to outgun golovkin and hes not capable of doing that.

      The fight might not look that dissimilar to golovkin v brook. I think canelo will have more success than brook, but the patterns going to remain. A skilled guy who is ultimately outgunned not having the footwork to get out of danger, and not having the power to keep golovkin off of him. He will have some early success but he will get broken down.
      how in the **** did he struggle with them?

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      • #4
        Canelo is the most skilled fighter he has ever fought. He struggled with skilled B level Jacobs and WW Brook. That's why.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
          how in the **** did he struggle with them?
          nah what i meant, is that the version of canelo from a few years ago could beat that type of opposition. so how can people gauge that hes actually improved so much?

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          • #6
            Dominic Wade
            Willie Monroe Jr
            Marco Antonio Rubio
            Daniel Geale
            Curtis Stevens
            Matthew Macklin
            Gabriel Rosado
            Grzegorz Proksa

            those are the regular hbo fights that gg has had.. such a murderers row. you fools get blinded by power

            He finally fought a good fighter and didnt look like superman anymore. You all wanna blame age, but skill is the reason he looked the way he did, and canelo will out skill him

            "he was better 4 years ago" No shlt cause look who he was fighting
            Last edited by HanzGruber; 05-15-2017, 04:16 PM.

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            • #7
              "Canelo" is gonna str8 right counter GEE's jab & pound his body from both sides. GEE is gonna look super slow & discouraged by Rd 10.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
                nah what i meant, is that the version of canelo from a few years ago could beat that type of opposition. so how can people gauge that hes actually improved so much?
                who the **** has GGG been fighting?? Brook then Jacobs??? he looked like **** in both of those fights and 1 was a damn unproven ww

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GriffTannen View Post
                  Dominic Wade
                  Willie Monroe Jr
                  Marco Antonio Rubio
                  Daniel Geale
                  Curtis Stevens
                  Matthew Macklin
                  Gabriel Rosado
                  Grzegorz Proksa

                  those are the regular hbo fights that gg has had.. such a murderers row. you fools get blinded by power

                  He finally fought a good fighter and didnt look like superman anymore. You all wanna blame age, but skill is the reason he looked the way he did, and canelo will out skill him

                  "he was better 4 years ago" No shlt cause look who he was fighting
                  exactly...how the hell can OP try to trash anyones elses recent comp and praise that bull****?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                    Canelo is the most skilled fighter he has ever fought. He struggled with skilled B level Jacobs and WW Brook. That's why.
                    they rather play the "he scared" game... **** got real now that the challenged are actually coming

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