If brook beat spence, would he get much credit?

[Prince Madison]

Would it get him on the P4P list? WOuld it prove him to be the number 1 welterweight? How would the reaction be if kell brook won?
Or would the focus be on errol spence being untested and unproven, and would the angle be that 'spence wasnt what we thought he was' rather than brook being better than people thought he was?
Would people than point to spences previous opposition and would they start saying, 'well who had spence beaten that proved him to be a top fighter and a great win?' thereby diminishing the win. Much in the way that many on here dont give calzaghe credit in retrospect for beating lacy, as although heavily hyped, he did not have a good name on his cv (sound familiar?)
So, what do you think, would brook winning be a result of brook being a true world class fighter and a great performance, or would it be due to spence not being the real deal? How would it likely be perceived...

[hhs661]

Of course he would get credit..
P4P, Possibly. I'd consider a win over Spence to be a really good one. One of the best in the division at that and if Spence can bounce back, it'd look even better down the road.
I think Brook is already a top 3-5 fighter in his weight class. This would bump him up there w/ Manny(idc who he fights, he's still one of the best WWs), Thurman-Garcia winner.

Truth be told, the opposition Spence has fought, is similar to what Brook faced before getting that big fight. It's called progression as a fighter. If Spence fought the champ and lost, then he'd simply lose. But to fight your way to a title shot isn't bad at all.


Why wouldn't he? I don't get downplaying Spence at all. It seems like certains posters who are fans of "x" fighter look to downplay just about every possible opponent, then turn around and ask a question like this.

I think highly of Spence. I think he's one of the best WWs in the game. If he loses to Brook, so be it. I'd at least hope he'd be able to rebound and get back to another title shot. But that's just me

[uppercut510]

it would be a good win!!!!!!! its GeeGees best win to date so at WW it would be a very good win for spence.

[RomanReigns]

If brook agrees to fight him. I'll give him a credit.

[HanzGruber]

no way would he deserve to be top 10 pfp, but yea hed get credit

errol spence and shawn porter alone dont make you pfp

[Prince Madison]

Of course he would get credit..
P4P, Possibly. I'd consider a win over Spence to be a really good one. One of the best in the division at that and if Spence can bounce back, it'd look even better down the road.
I think Brook is already a top 3-5 fighter in his weight class. This would bump him up there w/ Manny(idc who he fights, he's still one of the best WWs), Thurman-Garcia winner.

Truth be told, the opposition Spence has fought, is similar to what Brook faced before getting that big fight. It's called progression as a fighter. If Spence fought the champ and lost, then he'd simply lose. But to fight your way to a title shot isn't bad at all.


Why wouldn't he? I don't get downplaying Spence at all. It seems like certains posters who are fans of "x" fighter look to downplay just about every possible opponent, then turn around and ask a question like this.

I think highly of Spence. I think he's one of the best WWs in the game. If he loses to Brook, so be it. I'd at least hope he'd be able to rebound and get back to another title shot. But that's just me

im not trashing him. i just want it in black and white on here for people to make their thoughts clear. Cause i dont want to see a 180 and people saying, 'oh maybe spence wasnt that good actually' if all you supposedly knowledgable boxing fans on here rate him so highly now and, you should all rate brook extremely highly if he ends up beating him.

[hhs661]

im not trashing him. i just want it in black and white on here for people to make their thoughts clear. Cause i dont want to see a 180 and people saying, 'oh maybe spence wasnt that good actually' if all you supposedly knowledgable boxing fans on here rate him so highly now and, you should all rate brook extremely highly if he ends up beating him.

Yeah, like I said, I'd give the man his credit. It'd be one of the best wins in the division. Losses happen man. IDC about what other people on here say. I don't rule a guy to be a bum, hypejob or that their career's over if they get bested by another world level fighter.

[Prince Madison]

Yeah, like I said, I'd give the man his credit. It'd be one of the best wins in the division. Losses happen man. IDC about what other people on here say. I don't rule a guy to be a bum, hypejob or that their career's over if they get bested by another world level fighter.

good stuff, yeah that comment wasnt directed at you, just sick and tired of people revising wins. And what ive highlighted in bold means you are in the minority on this forum.

[HanzGruber]

im not trashing him. i just want it in black and white on here for people to make their thoughts clear. Cause i dont want to see a 180 and people saying, 'oh maybe spence wasnt that good actually' if all you supposedly knowledgable boxing fans on here rate him so highly now and, you should all rate brook extremely highly if he ends up beating him.

"extremely high" cmon now.. he would not be close to pfp.. danny garcia has a 100x better resume and people still dont wanna put him top 10 pfp

[uppercut510]

Yeah, like I said, I'd give the man his credit. It'd be one of the best wins in the division. Losses happen man. IDC about what other people on here say. I don't rule a guy to be a bum, hypejob or that their career's over if they get bested by another world level fighter.

good post!!!!!!!!