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    NEWS JUL 14 2016, 2:09 PM ET
    Video Shows Dylan Noble, 19, Fatally Shot by Fresno Police
    by ERIK ORTIZ
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    Body cam video released of Fresno shooting 1:53
    Newly released video shows the dramatic moment an unarmed 19-year-old man was shot four times by Fresno, California, officers during a traffic stop last month.

    The June 25 shooting of Dylan Noble came under scrutiny following earlier cellphone video taken from a distance that showed him being shot. That footage did not indicate why officers apparently feared for their safety.

    But a police body-camera video made public Wednesday sheds light on the shooting, including that Noble shouted that he hates his life just before police had first shot him — raising questions about his mental state at the time.

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    The scene unfolds over more than two minutes, after cops respond to a call about a man with a rifle. They come into contact with Noble's pickup truck on the street, and after following him, he stops at a gas station.

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    Fresno Police Chief Reacts to Witness Video of Officer-Involved Shooting 1:50
    Noble was given about 30 commands during the stop, but failed to comply with officers, Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer said at a news conference Wednesday.

    Officers in the video can be heard shouting "Show both hands!" and "You're going to get shot, man!" as Noble only keeps one hand up and advances slowly toward the officers.

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    He also appears to be reaching behind his back with his right hand, prompting an officer to yell, "Drop whatever you have in your hand!"

    "One of the officers said during his interview that he felt Noble was either taunting him or practicing pulling out a gun," Dyer said.

    Image: Dylan Noble approaches Fresno California police officers against their order during a traffic stop shortly before he was shot and killed in Fresno
    Dylan Noble, 19, is shown in this image captured from police body-camera video approaching Fresno, California, police officers. Fresno Police Dept. / Reuters
    Then, Noble mentions how "I f-----g hate my life," but refuses to meet the officers' demands. He is shot twice and falls to the ground on his stomach, and officers continue yelling at him not to move his arms or they would shoot again.

    When he continues to move, he is shot twice.

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    Dyer said the department was investigating whether those final two bullets were necessary.

    "I, too, have questions about the last two rounds that were fired," he said. "Were they based on a reasonable fear?"

    Dyer acknowledged that Noble was unarmed but was holding a small, empty plastic container with an unknown purpose. It was unclear what came of the original report of someone with a rifle.

    The police chief said the officers who responded hadn't known at the time that what he was carrying was not a weapon.

    "I've had the luxury of watching this video 40 times in my office and on the big screen, a luxury those officers didn't have," Dyer said.

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    He added that he wanted to release the video last week, but the fatal shooting of five police officers during a Dallas protest last week gave him pause.

    A criminal investigation into the incident is expected to be done by August, and will also rely on a coroner's report and toxicology reports.


    Dylan Noble, 19, was fatally shot by police in Fresno, California, on June 25, 2016. courtesy family
    After prosecutors review the case, police will determine whether the use of force was justified.

    "Tensions are high," Dyer said. "In some cases we are one spark away from a forest fire. And I pray this video doesn't serve as that spark ... This is not a time to become violent."

    Stuart Chandler, the attorney for Noble's mother, Veronica Nelson, put out an earlier statement saying that he urged the police chief to release the video Wednesday.

    "We are pleased to discover from the media that Chief Dyer is belatedly providing the body camera footage to the general public," Chandler said.

    Noble's mother and attorney said in a claim filed with the city that the officers used excessive force, and they called the death inexcusable. The claim does not say how much Nelson seeks from the city.

    Dyer, who has asked the FBI do its own investigation into the shooting, said he has yet to conclude if officers used excessive force.

  • #2
    His life does not matter to those who run mainstream media or to Obama because his skin is the wrong color.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...everybody.html

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    • #3


      It's a white guy so the media and SJWs don't care

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      • #4
        His death doesn't support the false narrative that has been perpetuated by the liberal media and our racist president. So no it doesn't matter.

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        • #5
          Anyone who thinks his life doesn't matter or doesn't see this is a part of the problem with how the police interact with civilians nowadays is a an idiot.

          This is just another instance of why the police need to be trained to provide better service & less menace to the communities they work within. This kid clearly had issues that would have been better worked out in connection with medical personal & mentors then with the police. Police should be better trained in how to deal with the public in more non-lethal ways. I believe there has been some shift in recent decades with how the police deal with people in such an aggressive militaristic manner. I mean I tend to think that if the Rodney King incident happened today it'd have been a murder & not a horrific beating. And thats a huge problem regardless of the race of the victim or any other demo the victim might fall within.

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          • #6
            It has nothing to do with the police shootings. They've always happened and there's always been a debate about whether the police should shoot first when a suspect reaches for something or wait until they're attacked.

            The public basically doesn't form an opinion until after that split-second decision is made. If the criminal pulls a gun and pops one off into a cop's face, he's a scumbag and the cop was a hero. If the cop shoots first then he's the scumbag and the suspect was a martyr.

            None of that is new.

            The current phenomenon is all about racial extremists finding mishaps that fit their narrative and using them for propaganda. The for-profit media is playing along for ratings. Anyone who has lived in the US knows how the black community (as a whole, not every individual) views other races and how every event is a propaganda/guerrilla warfare opportunity.

            Shootings that go the other way and why they have the protocols they do:



            In theory the second that guy started digging around in his pockets the cop should have blown him away. Then he would be another evil cop.
            Last edited by ////; 07-16-2016, 09:37 AM.

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            • #7
              It would if he were black.

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              • #8
                Idiot kept putting his hand behind his back looking like he was reaching for something and then was reaching under his shirt when on the ground. Cops did what they are trained to do.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
                  Idiot kept putting his hand behind his back looking like he was reaching for something and then was reaching under his shirt when on the ground. Cops did what they are trained to do.


                  this. those cops showed incredible restraint. probably too much of it. i coldn't watch anything past the kid taking a bullet in his stomach.


                  this video looks an example where somebody is looking to get himself killed by police. you can't do anything worse other than pull your gun out from your waist, the way you're threatening to do.



                  if this is some kind of "smoking gun" proving that "cops ain't racist doe" you're probably missing hte point. i don't think there are a ton of racist cops. they're more inclined to consider black men a threat than any other group, and to use force agaisnt them, becaus they're that's how they're taught. and that's racist.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                    Anyone who thinks his life doesn't matter or doesn't see this is a part of the problem with how the police interact with civilians nowadays is a an idiot.

                    This is just another instance of why the police need to be trained to provide better service & less menace to the communities they work within. This kid clearly had issues that would have been better worked out in connection with medical personal & mentors then with the police. Police should be better trained in how to deal with the public in more non-lethal ways. I believe there has been some shift in recent decades with how the police deal with people in such an aggressive militaristic manner. I mean I tend to think that if the Rodney King incident happened today it'd have been a murder & not a horrific beating. And thats a huge problem regardless of the race of the victim or any other demo the victim might fall within.

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