could Cerdan have won the rematch with Jake?

[rightsideup]

Your thoughts

[The Old LefHook]

Your thoughts

I believe Cerdan was destined to be one of the middleweight greats. LaMotta was never easy for anyone. One could speak better on the issue of the rematch if the whole first fight were available instead of a few selected rounds.

Fights against Robinson would have happened. Those would have been absolute wonderfests. There is likely to have never have been a fight with Maxim for Robinson if Cerdan had not been killed. The business would have been with Cerdan and a few rematches there. I feel Cerdan would win at least one.

The historical picture seems much better with Cerdan in it. Graziano with his style would not have fared well against the fast circling frog. Everything points to a big showdown with Robinson after Lamotta is disposed of in the rematch. This fight, however, is available only in parallel realities, I am afraid.

[Humean]

It is pretty likely that he would have edged out a decision over LaMotta in the rematch. Cerdan was a far better mover and combination puncher than LaMotta. In their fight LaMotta seemed to come out really fast in his hell-fire mode, he genuinely caught Cerdan somewhat off guard with the fast pace (which is why LaMotta's win shouldn't just be dismissed because of Cerdan's injury) but he did get lucky that Cerdan fell and injured himself the way he did. In the rematch i'd say something like 9 rounds to 6 for Cerdan with no knockdowns.

[billeau2]

While these things are highly speculative....Cerdan had the skill level and the smarts to beat the Raging Bull.

[Ray Corso]

Cerdan was the European Welter & Middle King at the same time if I remember correctly. His only losses in Euro Titles were DQ's because he was a bit overactive haha!
This guy came to the states and KO'd Zale and was winning decisively.
To me he was the best Euro fighter to date, he could box and he could fight.
He was an idol in France and was married to a famous singer and song writer
that was a pop stasr in Europe. This guy had everything going for him and his
future had so much promise. He could have beaten Jake and then fought Robinson in a series of bouts in the States and in Europe. (Robinson loved European fans)

One of many boxings tragedies, Cerdan was a International HoF talent!!!!
Ray.

[rightsideup]

Very highly thought of by both ray arcel and Angelo. Dundee

[sonnyboyx2]

Cerdan was the European Welter & Middle King at the same time if I remember correctly. His only losses in Euro Titles were DQ's because he was a bit overactive haha!
This guy came to the states and KO'd Zale and was winning decisively.
To me he was the best Euro fighter to date, he could box and he could fight.
He was an idol in France and was married to a famous singer and song writer
that was a pop stasr in Europe. This guy had everything going for him and his
future had so much promise. He could have beaten Jake and then fought Robinson in a series of bouts in the States and in Europe. (Robinson loved European fans)

One of many boxings tragedies, Cerdan was a International HoF talent!!!!
Ray.

Cerdan was never married to Edith Piaf, Cerdan was already married when he and Piaf started a well publisized affair in 1948.. Piaf was one of the worlds most famous singers at the time.

[IronDanHamza]

I think so.

Cerdan would have done better in the rematch IMO.

Even though he was doing well in the first one.

[rsf]

I'd say very possibly and perhaps he may well of come out in top in a trilogy with jake . Real shame when he died it robbed us of some great talking points