Can some weak chins like morrisons take slow heavier punches better than guys with solid chins. Watching the foreman fight, when foreman connected Morrison came back straight away without being stunned where as those shots would stun most heavyweights. But when it comes to fast punches, morrisons chin cracks. Would it make sense then to say to crack a solid chin you need a heavy punch and to ko a big heavily padded guy with a weak chin you need a fast punch?
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I think it would be fair to say Morrisson's chin just wasn't as bad as its made out to be. I know for sure at least two of the three guys that stopped him could straight up crack and one was one of the best to ever do it. 52 fights stopped three times and fights aggressively almost all the times. How weak could his chin possibly be?
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Originally posted by TBear View PostMorrison boxed smartly against Foreman. Stepping away everytime Big George planted. I believe if Morrison tried for a knockout as he often did in fights, Foreman would have put him into the twilight zone!Ascended likes this.
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The man had 52 pro bouts against good competition from the bottom up and got stopped 3 times for 3 looses!!! Thats pretty damn good as far as contenders go!!! Heavyweights are capable of doing damage regardless of overall skills so the talk of Tommys weak chin gets yaked about by novice fans who don't understand the chances ALL heavyweights take!! Ray
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Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove View PostI think it would be fair to say Morrisson's chin just wasn't as bad as its made out to be. I know for sure at least two of the three guys that stopped him could straight up crack and one was one of the best to ever do it. 52 fights stopped three times and fights aggressively almost all the times. How weak could his chin possibly be?
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Elite??? How about contenders! If you fight the contender of your erathats all you can do!!!
L. Lewis
G Foreman
R. Mercer
R. Purity
P. Thomas
C. Williams
J. Tillis
J. Hipp
D. Ruddock
.........................these fellows are all well known an were competitive within the top ten at one time r another! Tommyalso fought the better trial horses coming up and did exactly what he was supposed to do!
Lots of "elite" heavys have been on their back sides the real deal is to get up!!! Being stopped 3 tims for your ONLY losses in 52 bouts is a damn good record! His chin couldn't be "weak" or he's have been stopped atleast 7 tmes with those names on his record!
Todays youn fan see a few tko or KO's and think a fighter is inferior because their favorite cgherrypicker has an "0" at the end of their record!
Any good heavy an do damage to anyone! Thats the undeterined clause when watching the big boys, **** happens!!! Ray
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I'm aware of his record. 3 of those were past it 80s HW's, 2 more were past it. Hipp and Purity were hardly elite. He didn't fight Bowe, Tyson, Holyfield, Tua, Moorer(I realise his career was cut short too soon though) I cannot see his chin standing up to these guys. We have got to set a standard somewhere in the elite HW's. If Morrison didn't have a weak chin then who did?
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Originally posted by likeamulekick View PostCan some weak chins like morrisons take slow heavier punches better than guys with solid chins. Watching the foreman fight, when foreman connected Morrison came back straight away without being stunned where as those shots would stun most heavyweights. But when it comes to fast punches, morrisons chin cracks. Would it make sense then to say to crack a solid chin you need a heavy punch and to ko a big heavily padded guy with a weak chin you need a fast punch?
Its an old quote, but "often the shot that knocks you out is one you don't see". This can certainly be applied to fighters with ridiculous speed, where opponents simply don't see the punch coming.
Funnily enough, two of the finest heavyweights credited with two of the best abilities to hold a punch (George Foreman himself and Sonny Liston) were both knocked out by one of the perceived lesser concussive heavyweights, albeit with very fast hands (Ali).
Different fighters can seem to have different chin characteristics too. Frazier could absorb round after round of punches from Ali, but he struggled with the heavier, slower blows of Foreman. Tyson could take ridiculous blows early in fights, but could be stopped late. You couldn't knock Oliver McCall out with a stick of dynamite!!
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Tommy had a pretty decent chin,,, its not like he had an amir khan type chin,,,
Ive seen him take big shots and not get rocked
Its the heavy division where the guys hit the hardest,, of course your going to be stopped a couple of times if you have a long career...
i think people complain about his chin because of how brutal the ko's were, especially the ray mercer ko.. Yikes that was brutal
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