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[Kris Silver]

Undersea ‘hybrid warfare’ threatens security of 1bn, Nato commander warns

Underwater infrastructure vulnerable to Russian threats, says V Adm Didier Maleterre, after suspected sabotage of gas pipelines

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ybrid-warfare-...

[Kris Silver]

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[Kris Silver]

You can't leave your geographical continent.

There's 7 continents in the world. We're obviously situated, in the continent of Europe.

What we've invented a new one of our own now, just by leaving a political union have we?

You fucking idiot. Honestly.
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[Kris Silver]

You're so confident in what you say on international relations, security, leaving NATO.

Yet it's s obvious the logic of having allies as a deterrence, provides peace - is only just starting to sink in with you.

Yet to the vast majority of people it's obvious and doesn't even...

[Kris Silver]

You wouldn't be conscripted, donut.

By being allies, they are less likely to be attacked, as are we.

If none of those countries were in NATO, Russia would be able to pick of an isolated Moldova, Lithuania, Estonia, then empowered, Poland, then start picking at other European...

[Kris Silver]

NATO is to deter. Because the costs on Russia, North Korea, Iran, China or anyone attacking are huge enough it's not worth their whilst trying it.

It's kind of not a surprise you're effectively revealing you've not understood this simple concept.

It is the same in many ways...

[Kris Silver]

They've a large army actually, and already fended off Russia from an invasion, once already. As has been explained to you before.

It's also not just a case of whether country A beats country B.

If it's remotely close then a country that has bad intentions, history of invading...

[Kris Silver]

Of course most accounts favour against him. He was basically on his own and drastically outnumbered. You think the 2 groups of youths are going to give accounts not maximising his wrongs and playing down there's?

Recording, largely surrounding, shouting obsecenities and abuse at a guy in...

[Kris Silver]

You need to be well informed, have coherent strong points to counter 32 countries consensus of being in NATO.
Finlands public just shifted to majority support for being safer in NATO. Go argue with them and everyone else as to the extensive points as to why their democratic will, is wrong....

[Kris Silver]

I'm not gonna quibble too much with this one, as said were not too far apart.

I do think you're playing down the aggression, abuse and physical contact of everyone else bar the guy.

Plenty of them lied, too.

Yet you seem willing to accept their statements he laid...

[Kris Silver]

Go and put your case out there then Madison, to the Governments of 32 countries, to their security departments, agencies, vast majority of opposition parties, military and international relations experts, diplomats.

Not to forget, the public. You're not convincing too many of them here,...

[Kris Silver]

What like Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Jordan, Oman, Morocco, Bahrain, Sudan that all generally have friendly relations with Israel and Western countries.

It's been explained to you Arab countries spans 22 countries, many of which with good relationships with the West....

[Kris Silver]

Security. The UK isn't big or strong enough to resist aggressive attack on its own. Just as it wasn't in the World wars.

What was needed in the World Wars Madison?

Allied countries defending together. Often with defence pacts and treaties. But there weren't as many then and...

[Kris Silver]

NATO can disband.

All 32 sovereign countries, their mix of Governments, location, relations, security agencies, experts, and the majority of their people are mistaken.

Madison knows better.

[Kris Silver]

The guy told some lies too, granted. I've not disputed that. I've also said he was too heavy handed. I've also said he deserves to do some time.

So, we're not too far apart in reality. It fits with how the jury found him. Slightly too harshly I think but anyway.

What I find...

[Kris Silver]

Numerous of the youths demonstrably lied, and their accounts contradicted.

Yet you seem willing to take their word.

The footage alone, the eyes do not lie. He was not escalating, abusing, laying hands.

That happened, to him, first. He was floored, and hit whilst...

[Kris Silver]

They were all in a public space. They had no right to that space above and beyond him or anybody else.

You start the clock from the moment he stabbed someone?

Really. Completely factoring out he wasn't the one shouting abuse. They surrounded him, shouted horrid abuse like he's...

[Kris Silver]

I'd give you some credit if the guy has zero reason to be there. But, he did. A smart phone was lost in the water. That's usually half a grands worth.

You're telling me if you or anyone is trying to find such an expensive item they or a friend has lost, in a public place, not doing anything...

[Kris Silver]

That's good info man, which I wasn't aware of all of that.

Especially the friends of Nic annoyed at his insistence to look for the phone.

Thanks for sharing....

[Kris Silver]

I've voted centre right and I've voted centre left.

So billions of people that tend to vote left even if centre left, don't believe in self defence? Hundreds of millions of Democrats don't believe in self defence?

Now good sir, you're just making yourself sound ignorant....