offering 2 to 3 k for a used svt

[Warrior Scholar]

title says all
a new svt is 5500

so im looking for a used one or other options

[OctoberRed]

I assume you are not talking about the car part? The lighting device for punches?

[McNulty]

title says all
a new svt is 5500

so im looking for a used one or other options

I honestly don't put much stock in a SVT and I'll explain why. But first, there are free web solutions competitive gamers use. I'll have to dig for it, but I have a link for a super awesome one. I've spent several hours on it and it does make you sharp.

A little bit about me, I used to compete in the Am's and I dare say my hand speed was world class. I got into counterpunching early and my reaction times went through the roof with only doing Boxing. My reaction time at my age is better than competitive gamers with fast-twitch muscle reflexes because of how I trained for so many years.

So let me explain how reaction time works as best I can. There are all kinds of things going on brain-side before you even throw a punch. Don't forget, without anticipation (which you WON'T get from a SVT) you're never reacting in real time because by the time your brain processes the light (or change thereof), you're reacting in the past tense. For Boxing, you need to anticipate, but I'll get to that later.

So reaction, it takes some ms (milliseconds) for your eyes to react to changes in light, e.g. punches. Once your eye recognized light, it sends a transmission to your brain. The brain process' (recieves in data, processes data - [decides what to do], then ships out a reaction) then sends out signals to your entire body (eyes, legs, back, arms, head, etc). Just to give you an idea, the time it takes and average person to react to light and click a mouse button in response is roughly 300ms.

Seeing light on a board then reacting to it mentally/phsically is no different than using a web based solution. All you need is to react to a stimuli and you got the same result as an SVT. You don't need to touch the SVT with either arm, there is no benefit in it. All it's training is your brain signal speed. Recognize, send signals, react.

The touching is counter productive because you're not Boxing. When you Box, your weight distribution changes, arms change, head moves, shoulders move and for all that to happen with the desired effect you need to anticipate what's coming and an SVT doesn't do that.

When you Box long enough you see fighters make tells (Poker reference) or telegraph certain parts of their body before they punch. A lot of Boxers get this data from feeling out their opponent over the course of a few seconds to a few rounds. Maybe he pulls his jab back before throwing, maybe he lifts his elbow up before hooking, maybe he plants a certain way and does something in particular, etc.

Mayweathers pull counter for instance. I used to wait until I parried with my right glove to fire my right hand directly back but I would miss 100%. What he's really doing is seeing a tell then pulling back before the punch gets in the danger zone and is punching a nanoblip after the punch should have hit. Waiting for the glove to hit my gloves robbed me of precious ms and that's what I was missing.

There are all kinds of ways to force someone to do something and you react before they even know what they're doing. Feints help a lot, even getting into certain positions solicites a punch like dipping left solicates a right hand, well you're getting into the counter position.

Speed bag is a key compnent for reaction time. You need to focus on the bag though and not look at the wall. You look at that speedbag long enough and time begins to slow. Thats what you want. I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. Speedbags move faster than punches.

Catch-and-Shoot helped me the best. There are bad training habits with most trainers though. For it to really work, you need to isolate punches. Jabs for a few weeks, then 1-2's, then hooks, then uppercuts. All of that takes a lot of practice and you can't start out with all, but isolated. Once all are mastered, it's free-form. Weight distribution is very much key in the result and reaction (SVT doesn't help that).

Anyway, I don't want to get too deep into all that stuff because I could go on for hours. What I do want to convey is there are other ways that are far cheaper to achieve a better result. The reason I explained it in such detail is I know most people will see Lomachenko do something and people will want to do it in hopes of getting a benefit. I figured if I explain how the brain works with reaction, you'll understand how it works and why an SVT won't.

Lomachenko got good at what he does because of the endless hours in the gym and fighting his entire life. No machine that lights up is going to achieve your goals.

If you're still interested in my link, I'll dig it up.

[OctoberRed]

I honestly don't put much stock in a SVT and I'll explain why. But first, there are free web solutions competitive gamers use. I'll have to dig for it, but I have a link for a super awesome one. I've spent several hours on it and it does make you sharp.

A little bit about me, I used to compete in the Am's and I dare say my hand speed was world class. I got into counterpunching early and my reaction times went through the roof with only doing Boxing. My reaction time at my age is better than competitive gamers with fast-twitch muscle reflexes because of how I trained for so many years.

So let me explain how reaction time works as best I can. There are all kinds of things going on brain-side before you even throw a punch. Don't forget, without anticipation (which you WON'T get from a SVT) you're never reacting in real time because by the time your brain processes the light (or change thereof), you're reacting in the past tense. For Boxing, you need to anticipate, but I'll get to that later.

So reaction, it takes some ms (milliseconds) for your eyes to react to changes in light, e.g. punches. Once your eye recognized light, it sends a transmission to your brain. The brain process' (recieves in data, processes data - [decides what to do], then ships out a reaction) then sends out signals to your entire body (eyes, legs, back, arms, head, etc). Just to give you an idea, the time it takes and average person to react to light and click a mouse button in response is roughly 300ms.

Seeing light on a board then reacting to it mentally/phsically is no different than using a web based solution. All you need is to react to a stimuli and you got the same result as an SVT. You don't need to touch the SVT with either arm, there is no benefit in it. All it's training is your brain signal speed. Recognize, send signals, react.

The touching is counter productive because you're not Boxing. When you Box, your weight distribution changes, arms change, head moves, shoulders move and for all that to happen with the desired effect you need to anticipate what's coming and an SVT doesn't do that.

When you Box long enough you see fighters make tells (Poker reference) or telegraph certain parts of their body before they punch. A lot of Boxers get this data from feeling out their opponent over the course of a few seconds to a few rounds. Maybe he pulls his jab back before throwing, maybe he lifts his elbow up before hooking, maybe he plants a certain way and does something in particular, etc.

Mayweathers pull counter for instance. I used to wait until I parried with my right glove to fire my right hand directly back but I would miss 100%. What he's really doing is seeing a tell then pulling back before the punch gets in the danger zone and is punching a nanoblip after the punch should have hit. Waiting for the glove to hit my gloves robbed me of precious ms and that's what I was missing.

There are all kinds of ways to force someone to do something and you react before they even know what they're doing. Feints help a lot, even getting into certain positions solicites a punch like dipping left solicates a right hand, well you're getting into the counter position.

Speed bag is a key compnent for reaction time. You need to focus on the bag though and not look at the wall. You look at that speedbag long enough and time begins to slow. Thats what you want. I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. Speedbags move faster than punches.

Catch-and-Shoot helped me the best. There are bad training habits with most trainers though. For it to really work, you need to isolate punches. Jabs for a few weeks, then 1-2's, then hooks, then uppercuts. All of that takes a lot of practice and you can't start out with all, but isolated. Once all are mastered, it's free-form. Weight distribution is very much key in the result and reaction (SVT doesn't help that).

Anyway, I don't want to get too deep into all that stuff because I could go on for hours. What I do want to convey is there are other ways that are far cheaper to achieve a better result. The reason I explained it in such detail is I know most people will see Lomachenko do something and people will want to do it in hopes of getting a benefit. I figured if I explain how the brain works with reaction, you'll understand how it works and why an SVT won't.

Lomachenko got good at what he does because of the endless hours in the gym and fighting his entire life. No machine that lights up is going to achieve your goals.

If you're still interested in my link, I'll dig it up.

I'm still in shock that it's that expensive.

[McNulty]

I'm still in shock that it's that expensive.

Me too. The design seems simple enough.

[Zaroku]

I honestly don't put much stock in a SVT and I'll explain why. But first, there are free web solutions competitive gamers use. I'll have to dig for it, but I have a link for a super awesome one. I've spent several hours on it and it does make you sharp.

A little bit about me, I used to compete in the Am's and I dare say my hand speed was world class. I got into counterpunching early and my reaction times went through the roof with only doing Boxing. My reaction time at my age is better than competitive gamers with fast-twitch muscle reflexes because of how I trained for so many years.

So let me explain how reaction time works as best I can. There are all kinds of things going on brain-side before you even throw a punch. Don't forget, without anticipation (which you WON'T get from a SVT) you're never reacting in real time because by the time your brain processes the light (or change thereof), you're reacting in the past tense. For Boxing, you need to anticipate, but I'll get to that later.

So reaction, it takes some ms (milliseconds) for your eyes to react to changes in light, e.g. punches. Once your eye recognized light, it sends a transmission to your brain. The brain process' (recieves in data, processes data - [decides what to do], then ships out a reaction) then sends out signals to your entire body (eyes, legs, back, arms, head, etc). Just to give you an idea, the time it takes and average person to react to light and click a mouse button in response is roughly 300ms.

Seeing light on a board then reacting to it mentally/phsically is no different than using a web based solution. All you need is to react to a stimuli and you got the same result as an SVT. You don't need to touch the SVT with either arm, there is no benefit in it. All it's training is your brain signal speed. Recognize, send signals, react.

The touching is counter productive because you're not Boxing. When you Box, your weight distribution changes, arms change, head moves, shoulders move and for all that to happen with the desired effect you need to anticipate what's coming and an SVT doesn't do that.

When you Box long enough you see fighters make tells (Poker reference) or telegraph certain parts of their body before they punch. A lot of Boxers get this data from feeling out their opponent over the course of a few seconds to a few rounds. Maybe he pulls his jab back before throwing, maybe he lifts his elbow up before hooking, maybe he plants a certain way and does something in particular, etc.

Mayweathers pull counter for instance. I used to wait until I parried with my right glove to fire my right hand directly back but I would miss 100%. What he's really doing is seeing a tell then pulling back before the punch gets in the danger zone and is punching a nanoblip after the punch should have hit. Waiting for the glove to hit my gloves robbed me of precious ms and that's what I was missing.

There are all kinds of ways to force someone to do something and you react before they even know what they're doing. Feints help a lot, even getting into certain positions solicites a punch like dipping left solicates a right hand, well you're getting into the counter position.

Speed bag is a key compnent for reaction time. You need to focus on the bag though and not look at the wall. You look at that speedbag long enough and time begins to slow. Thats what you want. I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. Speedbags move faster than punches.

Catch-and-Shoot helped me the best. There are bad training habits with most trainers though. For it to really work, you need to isolate punches. Jabs for a few weeks, then 1-2's, then hooks, then uppercuts. All of that takes a lot of practice and you can't start out with all, but isolated. Once all are mastered, it's free-form. Weight distribution is very much key in the result and reaction (SVT doesn't help that).

Anyway, I don't want to get too deep into all that stuff because I could go on for hours. What I do want to convey is there are other ways that are far cheaper to achieve a better result. The reason I explained it in such detail is I know most people will see Lomachenko do something and people will want to do it in hopes of getting a benefit. I figured if I explain how the brain works with reaction, you'll understand how it works and why an SVT won't.

Lomachenko got good at what he does because of the endless hours in the gym and fighting his entire life. No machine that lights up is going to achieve your goals.

If you're still interested in my link, I'll dig it up.

Good stuff. I thought you were a tool, but I was wrong. Great post.

[OctoberRed]

Good stuff. I thought you were a tool, but I was wrong. Great post.

Never sleep on McNulty.. or compare him to Anorak.

[Zaroku]

Never sleep on McNulty.. or compare him to Anorak.

My bad for sure, McNulty is solid.

[OctoberRed]

My bad for sure, McNulty is solid.

But he will NEVER be better than the BUNK.

[Zaroku]

But he will NEVER be better than the BUNK.

He’s a great actor! McNulty is pretty cool.