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  • #11
    Originally posted by JayID View Post
    Thanks for the in-depth comment, my body fat was at 18.5% when I started the cut. There have been visible improvements so I'd imagine I'm pushing 16-17% now.

    My training is just your typical training camp regime. Bagwork, Roadwork, typical fitness routines such as circuits. Will be integrating sparring into it soon. There is very little weight training involved as of now... Just push/press ups, dips, ab work, pull ups, chopping wood However this may change if advised to. I much prefer the old school style of training rather than the new "s&c style training" that you see nowadays. I try to actually "box" as much as possible to work on my craft.

    I used to be quite vastly overweight around 3+ years ago when I was 14-15. I dropped that weight extremely quickly (too quickly) but never finished getting it all of it off. Hence the 18% body fat.

    Any more information you need let me know. Thanks.

    At your current bodyfat, 2lbs per week would be ok, when you get to around 12% i would slow down to 1lbs per week since you won't have as much bodyfat left, The body can only oxidize so much bodyfat per day, the more you have the more you can oxidize, so when your bodyfat gets low and your starting to look lean, you risk sacrificing muscle.

    Strength and conditioning isn't necessary, its something i like to incorporate my self though, but many people do just fine without it, From my own personal experience it 100% helps with strength loss while cutting weight, However if you maintain the new weight for a while your strength and power will come back on its own. i just find that it helps retain a bit better as you cut.

    Cutting weight and training camps are something you learn to refine yourself with experience, your learn a bit more about your body every time you do it.

    154-147 in 3 weeks is good progress, if you are feeling a little weaker, i would first try a high carb reefed to replenish muscle glycogen and reset some hormones that like to crash when you have been low calorie for a while, if that improves things great if not, don't be afraid to take a diet break, just eat at maintenance for a week and get back to it the following week, or you can just push through it until you reach your goal weight and begin to maintain it and wait for your strength and power to come back.

    Strength and power loss is normal when cutting weight at a decent rate, that's why its always best for a fighter to start camp as close to their goal weight as possible.
    Last edited by GodLike; 08-18-2017, 03:55 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by GodLike View Post
      At your current bodyfat, 2lbs per week would be ok, when you get to around 12% i would slow down to 1lbs per week since you won't have as much bodyfat left, The body can only oxidize so much bodyfat per day, the more you have the more you can oxidize, so when your bodyfat gets low and your starting to look lean, you risk sacrificing muscle.

      Strength and conditioning isn't necessary, its something i like to incorporate my self though, but many people do just fine without it, From my own personal experience it 100% helps with strength loss while cutting weight, However if you maintain the new weight for a while your strength and power will come back on its own. i just find that it helps retain a bit better as you cut.

      Cutting weight and training camps are something you learn to refine yourself with experience, your learn a bit more about your body every time you do it.

      154-147 in 3 weeks is good progress, if you are feeling a little weaker, i would first try a high carb reefed to replenish muscle glycogen and reset some hormones that like to crash when you have been low calorie for a while, if that improves things great if not, don't be afraid to take a diet break, just eat at maintenance for a week and get back to it the following week, or you can just push through it until you reach your goal weight and begin to maintain it and wait for your strength and power to come back.

      Strength and power loss is normal when cutting weight at a decent rate, that's why its always best for a fighter to start camp as close to their goal weight as possible.
      That's great, you've answered basically all of my worries/questions. I'm just glad that I haven't permanently lost my power. I like to consider myself as quite a hard hitter.. as I've had many people compliment me on it. So it would be a shame to lose that edge. I think I'll try the carb refill over the next couple of days-week. See how I get on. Just need to keep plodding on dropping this weight to get down the fighting weight so I can start competing and finally start my journey! Thanks for your help.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by JayID View Post
        That's great, you've answered basically all of my worries/questions. I'm just glad that I haven't permanently lost my power. I like to consider myself as quite a hard hitter.. as I've had many people compliment me on it. So it would be a shame to lose that edge. I think I'll try the carb refill over the next couple of days-week. See how I get on. Just need to keep plodding on dropping this weight to get down the fighting weight so I can start competing and finally start my journey! Thanks for your help.
        Happy to help. Good luck

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        • #14
          Originally posted by JayID View Post
          That's my issue! Haha. I was training my ass off. Then I suddenly had little energy and had lost my power! Gotta love the human body!
          Then back off a little bit. How long are your workouts, how intense, what do you do during each workout? Be specific.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin' View Post
            Then back off a little bit. How long are your workouts, how intense, what do you do during each workout? Be specific.
            I try to get 3 miles of roadwork in 5 days a week, in my earlier post I described what my workout generally consists of. When I'm at my actual boxing gym (3 times a week) the intensity of the workout is high. He rest of the week when I train on my own its at a medium intensity, but I do tend to try to step up the pace for one of those workouts in the week. Thanks for your help.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by JayID View Post
              I try to get 3 miles of roadwork in 5 days a week, in my earlier post I described what my workout generally consists of. When I'm at my actual boxing gym (3 times a week) the intensity of the workout is high. He rest of the week when I train on my own its at a medium intensity, but I do tend to try to step up the pace for one of those workouts in the week. Thanks for your help.
              When at the gym how long do your workouts last and what do you do (shadowboxing, heavy bag, etc)?

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              • #17
                what are your goals?

                boxing for fitness to get in shape? hope to fight someday? training for an actual match?

                I thought I read something about you hope to spar soon. if you're not training for a fight, then my suggestion is that you don't worry about your weight or classes yet. my experience with some first fight novices are that they get so focused on making weight that they "lose it on the scales", and then aren't mentally prepared for the actual bout.

                eat healthily and let your weight be what it is. even when you do get to actual matches "making weight" isn't a big deal because most local club shows you need to be within x amount of pounds (it varies and isn't one standard number). get a couple of fights in at a "catch weight" and focus on boxing. after you get the experience and nerves shaken off, then work towards a weight class.

                good luck.

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