help with roadwork

[GentlemanBoxer]

basically i can't jog worth two cheap *****s if you pardon my vernacular.
im six two and three hundred pounds but i thought itd be easy getting into it since ive working sprints and powerlifting for years but its been hell so far.

im doing a mile a day but i dont see any improvement resistance wise. I still gass hard with pain under the left ribs at 1/4 mark and and have to run walk the rest of it.

how does a big dude like me start working towards a good roadwork routine?
ive changed my diet and am losing weight steadily but id like to start working my cardio now rather than later as its the only thing stopping me properly sparring rounds as i gass wayyy too easily.

thanks in advance

[NVSemin]

basically i can't jog worth two cheap *****s if you pardon my vernacular.
im six two and three hundred pounds but i thought itd be easy getting into it since ive working sprints and powerlifting for years but its been hell so far.

im doing a mile a day but i dont see any improvement resistance wise. I still gass hard with pain under the left ribs at 1/4 mark and and have to run walk the rest of it.

how does a big dude like me start working towards a good roadwork routine?
ive changed my diet and am losing weight steadily but id like to start working my cardio now rather than later as its the only thing stopping me properly sparring rounds as i gass wayyy too easily.

thanks in advance

one suggestion - change the routine. Say, switch or combine with mountain bike if you have the opportunity like Sergio Martinez does, some swimming or mountain walking from time to time. Maybe you are just bored with jogging?

You say you did sprints, then why not to do interval training instead of steady jogging? Say 30 sec sprints with 10 sec rest x 10 times. This should improve your cardio.

[GentlemanBoxer]

I never stopped doing sprints. i keep things basic by running 50, 40 or 20 yard sprints as fast as i can manage, walking back to my starting point, and doing it again. worked fantastically for a football lineman, but boxing is a whole 'nother animal. i was doing greco-roman for a while and my conditioning seemed perfectly fine for that too, but since the gym closed i went and decided to try boxing and the most obvious thing is that i gas HARD. my trainer told me 'Roadwork kid' and ive been tying but my body seems to just not want to react to it. i even toned down the weightlifting a bit but no luck.
tghe more i think on it, the more i think its my weight. just too much to carry over extended periods of time. i guess i just want to be able to spar 6-8 rounds instead of the 2-4 that i do now. i feel like i got training wheels on.

[EDD1]

I never stopped doing sprints. i keep things basic by running 50, 40 or 20 yard sprints as fast as i can manage, walking back to my starting point, and doing it again. worked fantastically for a football lineman, but boxing is a whole 'nother animal. i was doing greco-roman for a while and my conditioning seemed perfectly fine for that too, but since the gym closed i went and decided to try boxing and the most obvious thing is that i gas HARD. my trainer told me 'Roadwork kid' and ive been tying but my body seems to just not want to react to it. i even toned down the weightlifting a bit but no luck.
tghe more i think on it, the more i think its my weight. just too much to carry over extended periods of time. i guess i just want to be able to spar 6-8 rounds instead of the 2-4 that i do now. i feel like i got training wheels on.

how long have you been trying to improve your running distance? it takes time dont give up, also, sometimes in sparing its your heart rate and breathing that dranes your energy, keep sparing and over time you will build up control of these. also, go see a doctor if possible, good luck!!!

[alb829]

I had the same issues you are having. I downloaded a Couch to 5k app "RunDouble" that really helped me. I use my phone when I run. The app plays your music and gives you a sound notification of when to run and when to walk. It also tracks your distance and maps it. There are multiple programs you can select, either based on time or based on distance. Here's the format for training based on time:
Week 1 Day 1
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 8 repetitions of 60sec running, and 90sec brisk walking. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 1 Day 2
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 8 repetitions of 60sec running, and 90sec brisk walking. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 1 Day 3
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 8 repetitions of 60sec running, and 90sec brisk walking. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 2 Day 1
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 6 repetitions of 90sec running, and by 2min brisk walking. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 2 Day 2
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 6 repetitions of 90sec running, and by 2min brisk walking. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 2 Day 3
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 6 repetitions of 90sec running, and by 2min brisk walking. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 3 Day 1
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 90sec running, then 90sec walking; 3min running, and 3min walking. Both are repeated a second time. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 3 Day 2
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 90sec running, then 90sec walking; 3min running, and 3min walking. Both are repeated a second time. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 3 Day 3
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 90sec running, then 90sec walking; 3min running, and 3min walking. Both are repeated a second time. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 4 Day 1
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 3min running, then 90sec walking; 5min running, and 2m30s walking. Both are repeated a second time. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 4 Day 2
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 3min running, then 90sec walking; 5min running, and 2m30s walking. Both are repeated a second time. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 4 Day 3
The runs this week start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. This is followed by 3min running, then 90sec walking; 5min running, and 2m30s walking. Both are repeated a second time. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 5 Day 1
The runs this week all start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. Day 1 follows with 5min running, then 3min walking. This is repeated 3 times. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 5 Day 2
The runs this week all start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. Day 2 follows with two 8min runs, separated with a 5min walk. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 5 Day 3
The runs this week all start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. Day 3 follows with single 20min run. Don't be put off, you've been preparing for this for 5 weeks, just keep a steady pace, and keep going. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 6 Day 1
The runs this week all start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. Day 1 follows with 5min running, then 3min walking; 8mins running and 3min walking; then 5min running. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 6 Day 2
The runs this week all start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. Day 2 follows with two 10min runs, separated with a 3min walk. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 6 Day 3
The runs this week all start with a 5 minute warm-up walk. Day 3 follows with a single 22min run. Again, keep a steady pace. Finally, finish with a gentle 5min cool-down walk.

Week 7 Day 1
After your 5min warm-up, run for 25mins, then finish with a 5min cool-down.

Week 7 Day 2
After your 5min warm-up, run for 25mins, then finish with a 5min cool-down.

Week 7 Day 3
After your 5min warm-up, run for 25mins, then finish with a 5min cool-down.

Week 8 Day 1
After your 5min warm-up, run for 28mins, then finish with a 5min cool-down.

Week 8 Day 2
After your 5min warm-up, run for 28mins, then finish with a 5min cool-down.

Week 8 Day 3
After your 5min warm-up, run for 28mins, then finish with a 5min cool-down.

Week 9 Day 1
After your 5min warm-up, run for 30mins, then finish with a 5min cool-down. Congratulations on completing the 9 week program - treat yourself to a lollypop!

Week 9 Day 2
After your 5min warm-up, run for 30mins, then finish with a 5min cool-down. Congratulations on completing the 9 week program - treat yourself to a lollypop!

Week 9 Day 3
After your 5min warm-up, run for 30mins, then finish with a 5min cool-down. Congratulations on completing the 9 week program - treat yourself to a lollypop!

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My guess is, you're just carrying too much weight like you mentioned. Go for brisk walks, swim, bike ride, do sprints(suggesting this since you can handle it), and get on a very clean diet until you shed some of that excess weight off. Then you can ease yourself into a running routine. Running right now may or may not also be hurting your knees. Doesn't mean you have to give up running completely right now, but maybe just cut it into half a mile every other day and go from there. I've met some people who have great fighting conditioning and hardly do roadwork. So keep at it (bag work, mitts, jump rope, double end bag, speed bag, sparring) and it will help you tremendously with the weight loss along with building up stamina. That's my uneducated opinion and advice anyhow.

[Ray Corso]

Diet!! Get the weight off by using your brain not your body! Your to heavy to use road work! Get your fat % count and get to work on a weight loss program. Your a candidate for a heart attack right now!
Straining muscles and tendons is not the way to train in boxing this isn't power lifting or football! At 6'2" and 300lbs you are not in condition to train hard, diet!!! Brain time son not road work. Shadow with a plastic suit on and exercise using boxing exercises! Get 35lbs off then start light road work be carefull about dehydration as you lose weight. Ray

[mconstantine]

Agree with what's already been said...you need to get cardio conditioning in another way besides running until you get some weight off. Road work too hard on your body when you're heavier.

[GentlemanBoxer]

Thanks all you guys for the replies. To all the guys saying drop weight dont worry, im doing it. Slow and steady. Drastic weight loss quickly is something i just dont dont mess with. Ill keep at the running, i tried not doing it today and it felt... weird. My leg muscles itched all day. Ima go with the suggestion to drop to half a mile and go from there. Im sure itll get better as the weeks go by and the weight cmes off.


Id like to ask about the shadow boxing in sauna suit. Wont that just make me lose water weight ill gain back as soon as i drink water? I shadow box a lot as its my favorite drill to do but never in anything other than shorts and a shirt.

Again, thanks all you guys for your really helpfulanswers so far.

[mathed]

basically i can't jog worth two cheap *****s if you pardon my vernacular.
im six two and three hundred pounds but i thought itd be easy getting into it since ive working sprints and powerlifting for years but its been hell so far.

im doing a mile a day but i dont see any improvement resistance wise. I still gass hard with pain under the left ribs at 1/4 mark and and have to run walk the rest of it.

how does a big dude like me start working towards a good roadwork routine?
ive changed my diet and am losing weight steadily but id like to start working my cardio now rather than later as its the only thing stopping me properly sparring rounds as i gass wayyy too easily.

thanks in advance

You are a pretty big dude and all that weight is going to be hell on your knees. I would do HIIT work to lose the weight first and then maybe try some roadwork. To be honest, you don't really need to do roadwork to lose a vast majority of the weight.

HIIT Tabata routines are short, very high intensity, 4 minute workouts that will shred fat like butter. Here are some links to a few routines, you should try and Google some more as well. There are plenty that involve movements that will be easy on your knees.........please, don't try to run any long distance with your weight (no offense intended at all), you could end up hurting your knees in a bad way.









http://tabatatraining.org/

http://www.fitnessblender.com/v/arti...ut-Routine/92/

http://pinterest.com/marcpayan/hiit-tabata-workouts/

http://fittwincities.com/2012/02/27/...rval-workouts/