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  • #11
    Tecnique 100%
    Yeah exactly. Technique + speed. If you can transfer your weight/all your body's strength into a punch and do that quickly whilst maintaining form, you're gonna be hurting people.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by rorymac View Post
      Yeah exactly. Technique + speed. If you can transfer your weight/all your body's strength into a punch and do that quickly whilst maintaining form, you're gonna be hurting people.
      E.g. Jimmy Wilde. 100 pounds moving at the speed of light with laser precision is enough to flatten anyone.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
        E.g. Jimmy Wilde. 100 pounds moving at the speed of light with laser precision is enough to flatten anyone.
        Yeah it sounds basic but accuracy is important too, as you say

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        • #14
          Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
          Perhaps because I have extremely strong and powerful legs... I have knockout power... and I haven't lifted weights since my college football days?
          If you did a decent weight training regimen on top of your skills training, you'd probably be stronger and hit harder.

          I'm not saying disregard technique. But if you've exhausted every other option, it's time to look elsewhere, otherwise you're not going to be improving.


          How often did Sonny Liston hit the old barbell squats? Any video of Tommy Hearns throwing up power cleans? Perhaps Bob Foster did a lot of depth jumps in his spare time.



          They are from an entirely different era of boxers when nobody had any clue how to train properly and were still doing all calisthenics and roadwork. Times change. It's time to get with them.

          There are fighters in my gym who do all sorts of leg weight training... they can't jump rope for more than ten minutes, or make it through a mile of roadwork with construction boots. And most of them punch like creampuffs.
          Then they aren't doing it right. Distance Running can affect leg strength and power, but not the other way around.

          Cyclists squat and deadlift all the time, and it doesn't affect their times.

          Olympic Sprinters and Marathon runners squat and it doesn't slow them down.

          In fact it makes them stronger, faster and more explosive.

          We're not talking about bodybuilding, we're talking about strength training. Alas, your stories about the guys in your gym are likely 100% bullshyt to further your anti-weight and pro-stone age training agenda.

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          • #15
            Find a trainer, someone who knows how to teach method and techniques. If you want to be a weightlifter then lift weights if you want to punch harder use your own weight as bingo33 suggested and eat right and rest well and train harder. If you had a trainer you wouldn't have time to be here or he doesn't **** or you can't learn. good luck Ray.

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            • #16
              Don't even worry about working out your legs or whatever you think will help with power...until you get your technique down.

              Then you can try that stuff. But remember added muscle equals added body weight. Technique won't add more weight.

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              • #17
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhXWUdusZxI&feature=plcp
                i think these drills might be off some use to you

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Jack3d View Post
                  Please explain to me how exactly distance running and jumping rope gives you strong and powerful legs.




                  You don't have to beat the crap or tire out your legs to make them strong.

                  Please give your bro science and ignorance of the human body a rest. You have no clue what you are talking about



                  Please tell me where Russian research says that triceps give you power? I'd love to see that load of non-sense

                  Power comes from the Legs and Hips. That means Heavy Box Squats, Deadlifts, Power Cleans, Box Jumps, Depth Jumps, and really anything that involves jumping. Explosive movements like these will build power.

                  Power will improve with technique as well, but there are ways you can develop in with a proper strength training routine.
                  This.

                  Training explosively with basic strength exercises that work your hips / legs, will give you a better rotation and more power when you choose to do so.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Jack3d View Post
                    Please explain to me how exactly distance running and jumping rope gives you strong and powerful legs.




                    You don't have to beat the crap or tire out your legs to make them strong.

                    Please give your bro science and ignorance of the human body a rest. You have no clue what you are talking about



                    Please tell me where Russian research says that triceps give you power? I'd love to see that load of non-sense

                    Power comes from the Legs and Hips. That means Heavy Box Squats, Deadlifts, Power Cleans, Box Jumps, Depth Jumps, and really anything that involves jumping. Explosive movements like these will build power.

                    Power will improve with technique as well, but there are ways you can develop in with a proper strength training routine.
                    Power comes from *the torque* generated from your hips and legs. While obviously lifting weights/getting stronger will develope *some* punching power, nothing compares to the extra power generated from improving your technique.

                    Technique + speed = you ***n some people up

                    Edit: to be clear, i dont disagree on your proposed exercises. Boxers, or any athlete for that matter, wiuld benefit from explosive/plyo type exercises. But if we are talking about punching power, first and foremost people need to focus on technique. Just my two cents.
                    Last edited by ~AK49~; 06-28-2012, 12:15 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by akScoundrel View Post
                      Power comes from *the torque* generated from your hips and legs. While obviously lifting weights/getting stronger will develope *some* punching power, nothing compares to the extra power generated from improving your technique.

                      Technique + speed = you ***n some people up

                      Edit: to be clear, i dont disagree on your proposed exercises. Boxers, or any athlete for that matter, wiuld benefit from explosive/plyo type exercises. But if we are talking about punching power, first and foremost people need to focus on technique. Just my two cents.
                      Well technique is important, I'm not arguing with you on that at all. I think we could easily put it as such; Combining a lot of technique practicing with explosive weightlifts to maximize the best outcome possible. I actually do agree the first time around, doing more technical exercises than the lifts, and as he improves in technique, he'll fade his additional hours in the gym onto weight lifting for maximizing the potential the technique has given.

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