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  • #41
    Originally posted by Tim Horton View Post
    a lot of the time rounds back in those days were defined as over when a fighter hit the ground. in other words, if john L were fighting James Corbett over 45 rounds as soon as there is a knockdown or lull in the action the ref could stop the round. at least that's what I seem to remember, correct me if I am wrong.
    yes and no

    london ring rules was that a round was over when a man was knocked down.

    the sullivan corbett fight was held under queensbury rules which are the same as now sceduled for 45, 3 min rounds and lasted 21, 3 min rounds.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by !! Met-Rx View Post
      Yes but they are though.. Most guys who sparr dont care, they just want to pound up on an inexperienced member to "try" new strategies. The way i see it is, if you are getting hit with punches at 50% power then its just as bad.
      you pointed out yourself that you are not familiar with the boxing scene so how would you know the magnitude of the force committed by the punches during any sparring session?
      Sparring in legitimate gyms occur under stringent supervision of the trainer, and any reputable trainer would not match up two opponents with discernible skill disparities. Lastly, anyone that agrees participate in sparring/boxing acknowledges and accepts the health risks, they also have the option to quit at any given time.

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      • #43
        Regarding this topic : did anyone notice the high rate of traffic accidents suffered by fighters ? :
        William Lawrence Stribling , Roberto Duran , Salvador Sanchez , Billy Collins Jr. , Jorge Fernando Castro , Diego Corrales and I bet there are even a few more examples . Does anyone think it is just a coincidence ?


        Not to mention cases like Michael Watson , Gerald McClellan , Robert Wangila , Levander Johnson and to an extent Steve Collins (retired because he collapsed during training camp and was told by the doctors it will risk his life to fight on)

        And the slurred speech like Hearns , Toney , Holyfield , Roach have , and the more severe cases like Benitez and Meldrick Taylor (some will add Ali too) ,

        and the high percentage of converting to Islam (Ali , Mustafa Muhammad , Qawi , Saad , Hopkins , Tyson , Eubanks , Danny Williams , Juan Carlos Gomez (?))

        The prison percentages may be more of the cause than the outcome so I won't start here.
        Last edited by frankenfrank; 11-01-2010, 09:15 AM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
          and the high percentage of converting to Islam (Ali , Mustafa Muhammad , Qawi , Saad , Hopkins , Tyson , Eubanks , Danny Williams , Juan Carlos Gomez (?))
          Islam and brain damage....now that you mention it....

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          • #45
            Originally posted by frankenfrank View Post
            Regarding this topic : did anyone notice the high rate of traffic accidents suffered by fighters ? :
            William Lawrence Stribling , Roberto Duran , Salvador Sanchez , Billy Collins Jr. , Jorge Fernando Castro , Diego Corrales and I bet there are even a few more examples . Does anyone think it is just a coincidence ?


            Not to mention cases like Michael Watson , Gerald McClellan , Robert Wangila , Levander Johnson and to an extent Steve Collins (retired because he collapsed during training camp and was told by the doctors it will risk his life to fight on)

            And the slurred speech like Hearns , Toney , Holyfield , Roach have , and the more severe cases like Benitez and Meldrick Taylor (some will add Ali too) ,

            and the high percentage of converting to Islam (Ali , Mustafa Muhammad , Qawi , Saad , Hopkins , Tyson , Eubanks , Danny Williams , Juan Carlos Gomez (?))

            The prison percentages may be more of the cause than the outcome so I won't start here.
            Isn't that because of parkisons that may or may not be releated

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            • #46
              Originally posted by 1 Hitter Quiter View Post
              Isn't that because of parkisons that may or may not be releated
              Same can be said of Ali. But many of them have Parkinson so it may be related , isn't dementia pugilistica a type of Parkinson ?

              I say Ezzard Charles' ALS was not related.

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              • #47
                I think that if you box under hydrated it can lead to problems
                of that nature. Not everybody gets punch drunk. I have met many fighters over the years. Some have problems but i think it might
                not be the brian as much as damage to the jaw from the punishment.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by NECK SNAPPER View Post
                  I think that if you box under hydrated it can lead to problems
                  of that nature. Not everybody gets punch drunk. I have met many fighters over the years. Some have problems but i think it might
                  not be the brian as much as damage to the jaw from the punishment.
                  NO, look at Frank Bruno, he was "well" hydrated, and he suffered some serious metal breakdown and his speech is somewhat slurred.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by !! Met-Rx View Post
                    NO, look at Frank Bruno, he was "well" hydrated, and he suffered some serious metal breakdown and his speech is somewhat slurred.

                    Bruno's speach slurred? On Saturday night he sounded no different from the early 80s. I've never thought of Frank in anyway brain damaged.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by !! Met-Rx View Post
                      NO, look at Frank Bruno, he was "well" hydrated, and he suffered some serious metal breakdown and his speech is somewhat slurred.
                      The mental breakdown can be attributed to those juices , the slur - to his accent .

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