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  • #41
    Originally posted by random guy
    boxer2k5 i know that. i was trying to say do what ever you want. you both have good arguments. i was just stating the only reason I lift is because i want to get biiger arms and such,which also supports my theary of do what you want. it also supports your theary being that i wouldnt lift if i didnt have small arms and weak legs.

    i respect your trainign and opinion 100% homie

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    • #42
      does anyone now a normal arm size for a middle weight

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      • #43
        Well consider that 16" is what Tyson, Bruno, and many other heavyweights have. I'd say 14" or even 13" is a good size for a middleweight.

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        • #44
          Arm size is irrelevant in boxing. Even the biggest boxers had relatively small arms...Tyson...Foreman..Wlad....

          It's all about the deltoids. You ever see a boxer with small delts?

          Arm size does not equate to punching power either...compare Jameel Mccline to Vitali....or Morales ....or Oscar when he was a lightweight.

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          • #45
            I UNDERSTAND THAT I JUST WANT BIGGER ARMS, i KNOW IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BOXING

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            • #46
              Originally posted by boxer2k5
              that is not true
              first off how often do you see 2 guys the same skill level same weight but one is twice as strong

              second its mroe about styles than strength

              noone said strength isnt important or bad
              we jsut saying its not neccesary to work with weights
              when training

              you can get more than enough strength doing pushups and pullups

              no need for weights in boxing

              yeah some boxers use weights

              but do you want to emulate them or do you want to emulate the great and legends

              because they didnt use weights
              Actually im about twice as strong as a guy i spar and he is one year older and have trained 1year more and its big advantage, and were both about 185, (must admitt that he is 6inches taller than me).ps i dont lift weights.

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              • #47
                Wellll if you want mass in your arms here ya go....

                Do all sets of the following in controlled motions...slow on the negative and a bit faster but not jerky on the positive part.
                Do 6-10 reps :

                Bench Press: great for chest and triceps

                Dips : pectoralis minor as well as major..but a real killer for triceps.Compound movements with heavy weight build the most mass .

                Nosebreakers (Skullcrushers): grab a barbell or an EZ curl bar, lie flat on your back or at a slight incline. Keep elbows in place and drop weight slowly to your forehead.Extend without bowing elbows out...enjoy

                Tricep Extensions: Great crunch and isolation exercise

                Triceps make up about 3/4 of your arm mass ....

                EZ curls or barbell curls: get at least 8 good reps...squeeze the bicep at the top of the movement.

                Reverse grip curls: Will work biceps as well as brachiradialis which is deep to the bicep around the elbow. This will add some width to your arm as well as build your fore

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by patto1984
                  you can lift weights and keep your speed and endurance, look at the man in your avatar he used muscle contracting machines and was fast and fit as neone. I think you need weights for strenght and explosiveness training. As long as you strecth properly you should be fine and dont push your maximum load out all the time so you bulk up like a body builder.
                  yeah I think that stretching is one of the most important aspects. You wanna be strong, but you wanna keep your flexability.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Dr.Pugilist
                    Nosebreakers (Skullcrushers): grab a barbell or an EZ curl bar, lie flat on your back or at a slight incline. Keep elbows in place and drop weight slowly to your forehead.Extend without bowing elbows out...enjoy
                    Dude, why not cut this out and so some SAFE incline bench press instead?

                    This excercise is dangerous, especially since he will be doing Heavy and Hard excercise to gain strength and muscle.

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