Robotic Boxing Trainer - Unique

[Fidday]

waist of money and time, its obvious the dude that invented this has never boxet in his life

[atgatt]

ori, you said about cauah's answer "what he said was pretty clear, the slip bag is cheaper... the slip bag goes in at different angles to." Can you copy and paste that from his remarks please? I see where he said mitts, sparring, etc is cheaper and goes at different angles, where is that clear about the slip bag in his statements?

cauah, thanks for your feedback. There is something I'm missing about the added effectiveness, but I certainly can see what you're saying about cost. I wished it could be made cheaper. I do think though that the size isn't much. It extends out from the wall 34", but still not as small as a slip bag. Best wishes to you and you're a real gentleman. I bet you're a great trainer too.

Fidday, you're kind of right. I only glove boxed with friends and never took serious training. I had a lot more fights that were not with gloves and no ref. Those are a lot different than ring fights where anything goes and no one cares what they do to you. Not trying to sound tough, just being honest. Still, thank God, I did pretty good for myself not having a coach except for just studying fighting in general and just wanting to stay alive. Maybe some day I will take some lessons from a good trainer and do some light sparring. If I had to do it all over again, and wasn't so poor in my younger days, I would have loved to take lessons like you all are. No doubt you all could point out flaws I have and could improve upon. The RBT was done from a point of view that I thought would benefit the sport and I gather from people in the know that it's not. Excepted, but hey, I tried.

Best to you.

[Trrmo]

I dont know why some people are giving the guy a hard time. He has got off his ass and made an effort, and that should be admired not discouraged. I would say keep at it and you might have something.

I think maybe at the moment you are trying to do too much with it. The machine will not mimic real sparring, and the two arms are trying to mimic the straight left and right, but it cannot do this effectively.
I think the Martial arts guy who tried it might have had the right idea.
Just one arm is all the machine needs, and the punching bag to both sides, above and below the hydraulic arm. This way a boxer can practice slipping to the sides and counter punching ie slip to the left, right to the body, vice versa, overhand right around and over the arm etc.
This seems to me a much better tool. Think of how boxers used a piece of string to practice ducking/weaving side to side. A hydraulic punching arm adds a little more realism to it.
This would work and be effective, but obviously depends on the cost, but only one arm would already cut the cost a little.
Have the punching suface area adjustable to practice punches from all angles might be useful too.

[Trrmo]

This shows something we have here in Quito at the gym I train at. At 18 to 30sec in this video you can see three car tires joined together with plastic tubes going through it at right angles with gloves on the end of the tubes. This is interesting to train on but the way the arms swing in not realistic (in the video there are two boxers hitting it which is not usual it was just the cuban/ecuadorian nat. teams were training together). So having a hydraulic arm is really a step up.

[atgatt]

trrmo, Wow! Now that’s a boxing gym. You all sure know how to make the best use of your equipment. Very clever device you all made with the straight arms attached to the sides of the tires. Gives you something that is moving.

Here is some boxing invention that I have to hand it to the guy for a LOT of moving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxXOO...eature=related

The trainer at that one gym where the RBT was at said he’d love to see a slip bag that came at you at an adjustable speed. He is a huge fan of the slip bag. He is the same trainer that got hit by the RBT arms. Nonetheless, I actually started making a prototype slip bag that would do just as he wished. Then it hit me, why should I? I’d much rather have an “arm” come at me like the RBT does.

What if there was one RBT arm that you attached anywhere on a wall that you found good, it still had the 5 to 13 mph punch speed adjustments, still punched out 18 inches, still had the flexible shoulder, but….it would punch out about every 4 seconds, no randomness. That would cut down a lot on electronic cost that is in the present RBT. If a person wanted to use it just for slipping, they can do that. If they wanted something to punch at while they slipped, they can put whatever punching device around the arm themselves. Would you find that worthy of a tool? It would be much cheaper than the present RBT but not nearly as cheap as a slip bag. If I were guessing if I could do it, it would be about $150 to $200. Possibly less than that if a company did higher volume than my low volume cost. Consider too, you HAVE to wear protection with it.

If the arm was ONLY used for punching out and did not have to be flexible for side blocking, that would reduce the cost much more.

[Trrmo]

trrmo, Wow! Now that’s a boxing gym. You all sure know how to make the best use of your equipment. Very clever device you all made with the straight arms attached to the sides of the tires. Gives you something that is moving.

Here is some boxing invention that I have to hand it to the guy for a LOT of moving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxXOO...eature=related

The trainer at that one gym where the RBT was at said he’d love to see a slip bag that came at you at an adjustable speed. He is a huge fan of the slip bag. He is the same trainer that got hit by the RBT arms. Nonetheless, I actually started making a prototype slip bag that would do just as he wished. Then it hit me, why should I? I’d much rather have an “arm” come at me like the RBT does.

What if there was one RBT arm that you attached anywhere on a wall that you found good, it still had the 5 to 13 mph punch speed adjustments, still punched out 18 inches, still had the flexible shoulder, but….it would punch out about every 4 seconds, no randomness. That would cut down a lot on electronic cost that is in the present RBT. If a person wanted to use it just for slipping, they can do that. If they wanted something to punch at while they slipped, they can put whatever punching device around the arm themselves. Would you find that worthy of a tool? It would be much cheaper than the present RBT but not nearly as cheap as a slip bag. If I were guessing if I could do it, it would be about $150 to $200. Possibly less than that if a company did higher volume than my low volume cost. Consider too, you HAVE to wear protection with it.

If the arm was ONLY used for punching out and did not have to be flexible for side blocking, that would reduce the cost much more.

Thats exactly what I was thinking. The side blocking would be a bonus but not essential. If you had half a dozen of the arms lined up along the wall, with a static punching pad surrounding each arm you could connect them all to one generator? sounds feasible and realistic to me.
The gym here couldnt afford, Eucador is a poor country and the gym receives limited funds. But in the States or Europe I dont see why not.

[Fidday]

ori, you said about cauah's answer "what he said was pretty clear, the slip bag is cheaper... the slip bag goes in at different angles to." Can you copy and paste that from his remarks please? I see where he said mitts, sparring, etc is cheaper and goes at different angles, where is that clear about the slip bag in his statements?

cauah, thanks for your feedback. There is something I'm missing about the added effectiveness, but I certainly can see what you're saying about cost. I wished it could be made cheaper. I do think though that the size isn't much. It extends out from the wall 34", but still not as small as a slip bag. Best wishes to you and you're a real gentleman. I bet you're a great trainer too.

Fidday, you're kind of right. I only glove boxed with friends and never took serious training. I had a lot more fights that were not with gloves and no ref. Those are a lot different than ring fights where anything goes and no one cares what they do to you. Not trying to sound tough, just being honest. Still, thank God, I did pretty good for myself not having a coach except for just studying fighting in general and just wanting to stay alive. Maybe some day I will take some lessons from a good trainer and do some light sparring. If I had to do it all over again, and wasn't so poor in my younger days, I would have loved to take lessons like you all are. No doubt you all could point out flaws I have and could improve upon. The RBT was done from a point of view that I thought would benefit the sport and I gather from people in the know that it's not. Excepted, but hey, I tried.

Best to you.

yeah cause all the great boxers were spoiled rich kids

this guy is full of ****