Robotic Boxing Trainer - Unique

[Spartacus Sully]

Funny thing is I wasn't even coming at you when I called the machine ******ed. I was commenting toward the original theadstarter. It's funny how the inventor of the machine happened to be on here and join the conversation after the fact. Though I have no problem telling you that the machine is ******ed, or any other alt's you have on here as well. I have no problem telling you I would have more fun going against you rather than your machine, and that I'd have more fun kicking your ass, just like you apparently have no problem expressing your opinions. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. Watch who I threaten? I guess that's supposed to scare me? Let me guess, you might report me to the "authorities". Oh, no! I'm shaking in my boots. Gimmie a break. I have an idea: Modify the RBT into a defibrillator, that way the rest of the nursing home might actually use it . Then you can be a lifesaver as well as a douche-bag!

thats all good and dandy but unless you actually plan on explaining what factors of this machine you feel are ******ed perhaps its best that you dont say anything at all.

FYI
******ed: ******ed is defined as abnormally slow physical, emotional or mental development.

or perhaps you could point out how to make his advertising more rsk approved, but all your doing now is whining and its showing your evident lack of maturity.

something like what was allready said about how certain things like emotions and smell are pointless to be mentioned and should just be left out is good advice.

i mean something like that might be better then: your a ****** and your a ****** and i wasnt talking to you and im gonna beat you up if i had the chance and i wouldnt even want to try out the machine and your a retarted idiot and i wasnt talking to you either and this whole thing is retarted, and your all just internet tough guys.

because stuff like that dosnt help any body.

[rskumm21]

thats all good and dandy but unless you actually plan on explaining what factors of this machine you feel are ******ed perhaps its best that you dont say anything at all.

FYI
******ed: ******ed is defined as abnormally slow physical, emotional or mental development.

or perhaps you could point out how to make his advertising more rsk approved, but all your doing now is whining and its showing your evident lack of maturity.

something like what was allready said about how certain things like emotions and smell are pointless to be mentioned and should just be left out is good advice.

i mean something like that might be better then: your a ****** and your a ****** and i wasnt talking to you and im gonna beat you up if i had the chance and i wouldnt even want to try out the machine and your a retarted idiot and i wasnt talking to you either and this whole thing is retarted, and your all just internet tough guys.

because stuff like that dosnt help any body.

Thanks Dad. Perhaps you mind your own business. I have every right to state my opinion and leave it at that. Just like you have every right to be a prick.

[Oriachim]

hm very nice product, just advertise it, if to many people don't like it, then you need to listen to them instead of persuming they are wrong like you seem to be doing.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

It's a unique product but IMO it won't help you one bit.

The thing is, you can't emulate what a human does. Slipping, giving angles and countering.

Nothing beats sparing, heavy bag work, speed bag, mitts, double end bag and the traditional training in boxing.

It's cool but redundant or better yet, ineffective.

It would be like putting another wheel on a bicycle. May look cool but you don't really need it.

[atgatt]

Ori, The site is more succinct now. Thanks.

cuauh, Understood. If I added upper cuts and hooks, it still wouldn't be able to throw them at perfectly right times. It is interesting though looking at boxing videos and my limited experience, how if people kept their guard up or returned the punching hand immediately to a guard position, they would have avoided so much. For me, the RBT has shown me the importance of guarding because it will be very quick in exposing an opening. Granted, I always keep in mind that the guard must also be covering hooks and uppercuts that the RBT does not throw.

[alb829]

atgatt, I think you have a great concept with the RBT. If you only had some more $ to throw into further development of the aesthetics. It would be really nice if you could add gloves or somehow form the foam into a glove shape without increasing the weight beyond the limitations of the arms. Adding uppercuts, body blows and such would be great additions. Perhaps giving it the ability to rotate as well. Also making it such that the user can set a specific combonation to be thrown. But all in all I think it's a good idea. You just needs to expand on it to make it market ready. Which I imagine will cost considerably. Take your idea on Shark Tank or find some investors so you can really do it right. I can see a market for it.

Alot the guys on this site are boxing purists and I don't think that's who this training tool is for. Imo I could see this type of machine in multi-sport gyms across the country used by weekend warriors/professional types that wanna feel like they're boxers without actually boxing.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Ori, The site is more succinct now. Thanks.

cuauh, Understood. If I added upper cuts and hooks, it still wouldn't be able to throw them at perfectly right times. It is interesting though looking at boxing videos and my limited experience, how if people kept their guard up or returned the punching hand immediately to a guard position, they would have avoided so much. For me, the RBT has shown me the importance of guarding because it will be very quick in exposing an opening. Granted, I always keep in mind that the guard must also be covering hooks and uppercuts that the RBT does not throw.

Again, no downing the product. I think it's very innovative but even if you add upper cuts and hooks for example, how would this help you train for a fight.

As the poster above me said, I think that it would help more people who are not seriously into boxing. Someone who might be looking to practice boxing without the contact. As a trainer myself, I couldn't see this product being effective for one of my fighters because it can't do something that sparring can't do.

It could however be a workout tool used by people that want to box without the contact.

[Spartacus Sully]

i dont think this really has a purpose in a gym i mean if your their might as well just spar some one.

i think if some one where to purchase it for home use it would be quite useful for random slipping deflecting and parrying pratice when some one is not availabe to hold mits or spar with.

I mean its not going to replace anything thats at a gym, but at home when your not going to have someone around 24/7 this would be alot better then nothing or a slip bag.

[atgatt]

alb, Thanks for the inputs. Yeah, I will be adding to it when I get the funds (work) again to do so. It’s my guess that at least 95% of those that buy boxing equipment such as speed bags, slip bags, heavy bags, etc, don’t box in the ring, me included. I have too many injuries from my youth to go full throttle in a ring today. My biggest experience in fighting is street fights, and it didn’t care for them then, and do what I can to avoid them now. With that, things happen very fast and there is no second chance or weight matching category. That’s what I really like about the RBT, its dang fast with no telegraph. The two fighters that “tried” it got smacked by it too even at a lower speed.

That said, although I still love to workout on the other bags, nothing compares to the RBT as it is. I use it about 4 times a week and the other days I use the bags. It still amazes me how much more tiring the RBT is even though I punch at it less. If your guard is lax anywhere within 18 inches of it, the straight jabs are so quick it will get to your head and show the opening you left.

Reading about reaction times, I do feel you can train your eyes to pick up things quicker. When I shot pistol competition for years, most people (including me at first) waited for the start buzzer to sound and then we’d kick in doing the course of fire. With time you start to learn to react quicker to just the start of the buzzer saving a few tenths of a second. So as with fighting, fractions of second matter a lot. If one can train their eyes to perceive something a fraction of a second quicker, it’s a big deal. For me, as an honest observation which may just be a feeling with no substance to back it up, but first using the RBT compared to now, I am picking things up a bit quicker on the arms, and dang sure keeping my guard up more.

cauah, I do understand where you're coming from. Only God can design a human body to do the marvelous things it does. But these are sincere questions. One boxing trainer who tried it was getting hit a pretty decent amount at the lower speeds (which are about average jab speeds of about 8 to 9 mph) when he boxed against it. He prided himself on slipping, and for good reason because he did it well. After boxing against it, he just wanted to slip as both arms shot forward at random. Most the time he just stayed out of the arms' path or back farther away from the 18 inch punch length. I can't recall when his head was in that area, that he was fast enough to slip the punch. So, my sincere question is, how is it that someone can not learn from that? It is disputable for sure, but I happen to agree that the jab is the most important punch. It opens up so many other punches that are more powerful. So doesn't it make sense to practice against getting hit by jabs by training your reaction times to pick things up quicker to stop them?

Again, those are not sarcastic questions and I am trying to get the feel from people in the know. Thanks.

[Oriachim]

urm first you say your not a trained boxer, then I see a video of you at medium speed deflecting the robotic punches as if it was nothing then you say that a trained boxer was getting hit all the time on the slowest speed???

your robotic thing needs different combinations, such as unpredictable ones, cause anyone can parry/slip the 1-2 combination if thats all thats coming.

I agree with ysem that it would be good if your at home but like he said it would not replace the equipment/people at the gym.