ricky hatton strenth training routine

[Spartacus Sully]

Hmm maybe pac was lifting...though if anything that would be the routine i would want to follow

[them_apples]

What does this have to do with MMA? Theres hundreds if not thousands or millions of people who have the old school boxing mentality that think lifting weights while trying to be a legit boxer is unholy, or at the very max think you have to do lightweight.

no, weights can be used, but they have to be light enough so you can push them up at a considerable speed.

high reps is BS to.

"weight lifting" is often said to be fine for boxing but is often used as a crutch for meat heads who really only care about image rather than there boxing improvement.

putting on weight is bad for boxing

[them_apples]

That argument doesn't even relate to lifting in boxing. Most people think lifting is unholy here because it'll make you slow. Hatton wasn't supposed to be the faster puncher. Let Manny come in jacked as hell and punch slower then you can bring up the argument but then again that means he wasn't lifting for strength so either way it wouldn't matter. Then again...

"Manny Pacquiao’s hard work finally paid off on December 4, 1998, when he defeated Chartchai Sasakul in a grueling eight rounds to become the WBC Flyweight Champion. Unfortunately, his reign was short lived, as Manny Pacquiao lost the belt to Medgoen Singsurat on September 17, 1999, in only his second defense of the title.

The unexpected loss prompted Manny Pacquiao to take stock of his career and he decided to undergo a rigorous weight-training program to qualify for the super bantamweight division at 122 pounds. It proved to be a wise move; within two years Manny Pacquiao became the IBF Super Bantamweight Champion when he defeated Lehlohonolo Ledwaba in Las Vegas on June 23, 2001. The fight thrust him into the spotlight and made Manny Pacquiao a true international star. Manny Pacquiao defended his title an additional four times, but the best was yet to come."

Pacquiao does use weights /medicine ball etc

[Phenomkidd]

no, weights can be used, but they have to be light enough so you can push them up at a considerable speed.

high reps is BS to.

"weight lifting" is often said to be fine for boxing but is often used as a crutch for meat heads who really only care about image rather than there boxing improvement.

putting on weight is bad for boxing

They don't have to be light enough to be pushed at considerable speed. Heavy weight + low reps = strength/power/explosiveness. Take note of powerlifters, heavy weight and low reps, some of the strongest and most explosive people. High reps are not BS either. Really light weight + very high reps (16+) = muscular endurance.

[Phenomkidd]

Pacquiao does use weights /medicine ball etc

Who said he doesn't? The quoted I posted says he did.

[Phenomkidd]

My post from another thread:

LOW reps with HEAVY weight BUILDS STRENGTH, power, explosiveness, etc (emphasis on strength over size). A reason is stronger neuro-musclar connection, being able to actively recruit more fibers for the weight due to lower reps. HIGH reps with LIGHTER weight encourages hypertrophy (emphasis on muscle mass rather than strength). HIGHER Reps with LIGHTER Weight, I would say does more for endurance.

I posted on Boxing Forum all about this, here you go:



Why would a lower weight make you stronger? Low Reps + Heavier Weights is trying to increase how much you can lift, this also strengthens the neuro-muscular connection, recruiting more fibers to lift the weight instead of promoting more hypertrophy like low weights and high reps does. Why do you think POWERlifters lift low reps and bodyBUILDERS use high reps?

For one thing is commonly known that high reps are used by bodybuilders for hypertrophy of the muscle as well as muscular endurance. Strength and explosiveness can be deemed as "power."

Quote:
* 1-3 Reps: Best suited to boosting your overall strength. The focus here is improving the maximum amount of weight possible for a single repetition. You’ll see powerlifters use these ranges frequently.
* 3-5 reps: Best for developing power, meaning that this rep range is good for the combination of both strength and speed. This is particularly useful for athletes training for sports performance. See stronglifts for more on strength training.
* 8-12 reps: This is the magic range touted by bodybuilders as being the most useful for adding lean muscle mass. Your muscles will enlarge the most in this range and feel a “pump” as you workout. Building muscle mass and looking/ feeling better is the focus of this site.
* 10-20 reps: Very useful for building mass in your legs. Your legs generally are able to handle more stress than your arms can handle.
* 20+ reps: Best for endurance. Not great for what you’re trying to accomplish if you’re like most readers of this site.

http://worldfitnessnetwork.com/2008/...-build-muscle/
http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5...ining-program/

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Why would heavy lifting be bad for your joints? As long as you use proper technique you will be fine, I'll guarantee you that. Limiting heavy lifting to 2 months is silly. Also 405lbs for a bench is a LOT of weight. You must have a suitable frame (tall) for it otherwise I would guess and say you would be more into lifting/bodybuilding than boxing. Take into account "heavy" is subjective to each person. Before I add weight to my bench it could be heavy for someone and easy for another person. Also push ups will only provide you with gains in small increments for a certain until you will not be able to make any more gains off it. Weight training would offer quicker and more noticeable gains.
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The point of lifting is to stress the MUSCLES, over work them, and tear em so they can be repaired. You should NOT have any joint problems. Because lifting makes you BETTER, like I said earlier some people think boxing + weights = slow. This is the WRONG mindset. It obviously makes no sense. Why would gaining strength w/o really gaining mass make you slow, it would make you faster, stronger, and more explosive. It's a fact. I'm not saying after you do too much in a day. When you do too much after a while you will not gain anymore strength gains and will only be working for endurance. If you're maintaining bodyweight and doing push ups wouldn't it be common sense you're gonna hit a wall in terms of gains since you're lifting the same weight all the time, your body weight.

Your last part makes no sense stress on joints has no effect whatsover on what you're gonna be lifting. You also don't really grasp the concept of lifting routines. You don't just do one weight and keep doing it. I do some stuff and when I do 5x5 I start at a good weight for me do 5, add more weight, do 5 more, keep doing this for 5 sets and when I get to the fifth set it should be very tough since ideally it'd be close to your 1 Rep Max.
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How do I get stronger for bjj/judo/mma/tha boxing?

A: You get strong. Too many people fall into the trap of thinking there's some magical exercise that will make their training somehow more applicable to their art, bollocks. Strength is strength, go train heavy and hard and you'll find you get stronger on the mat or in the ring. One leg squats on a gym ball while avoiding a stick swung by an old man with a Fu Manchu moustache won't help.

I differentiatied between what I mean by saying "high" and "higher" with "high" being around 7ish+ reps and "higher" being a good deal more. "High" Reps in combination with Light weight will usually produce a weight that will leave you exhausted by your last rep think of 10 reps, 10th rep being exhausting and heavy being subjective to the person. "Higher" Reps in combination with light weight will produce an even lighter weight due to the need to rep the weights a good deal more. "High" reps do in fact emphasize hypertrophy, why do you think bodybuilders use this rep range as stated in my previous post.

[F l i c k e r]

Phenomkidd, you know your ****. I like the way you think with weights. Nothing I already didn't know but it's nice to see other people thinking outside the box when dealing with weights.

[Phenomkidd]

Phenomkidd, you know your ****. I like the way you think with weights. Nothing I already didn't know but it's nice to see other people thinking outside the box when dealing with weights.

Thanks man , I try to dispel the myths surrounding boxing and lifting because most if not all are old-fashioned and just not true.

[them_apples]

They don't have to be light enough to be pushed at considerable speed. Heavy weight + low reps = strength/power/explosiveness. Take note of powerlifters, heavy weight and low reps, some of the strongest and most explosive people. High reps are not BS either. Really light weight + very high reps (16+) = muscular endurance.

wrong, it only makes you explosive if the weight can be pressed at a high speed. if you are pushing 95%+ your max you can't fire that weight up.

Phenom, I'm not saying weights are bad for boxing, they are good. I was merely trying to say that some kids take it out of control and really all they want is tons of muscle to look good but use the excuse (it helps my boxing).

[Phenomkidd]

wrong, it only makes you explosive if the weight can be pressed at a high speed. if you are pushing 95%+ your max you can't fire that weight up.

Phenom, I'm not saying weights are bad for boxing, they are good. I was merely trying to say that some kids take it out of control and really all they want is tons of muscle to look good but use the excuse (it helps my boxing).

No no its kool I know what you're trying to say .

But still I have to disagreed with the weight/speed thing. Because powerlifters are some of THE most explosive people you will ever see and they train by lifting as heavy as they can go. I as a sprinter would bet you that if I squatted heavy vs squatting enough to fire it up I would be more explosive for running with the first option.