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    How is it that a trainer that hasn't worked out in years manage to go 12 rds versus a less experienced boxer but is clearly able to run much longer, and works out regularly. I know they have a good eye and are able to spot things that less experienced boxer can't, but going 12 rounds i would expect the person who runs most to go the distance rather

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    when u sparr u dont run, u box trainers do punch mits all day all night.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by KiengKoopa View Post
      How is it that a trainer that hasn't worked out in years manage to go 12 rds versus a less experienced boxer but is clearly able to run much longer, and works out regularly. I know they have a good eye and are able to spot things that less experienced boxer can't, but going 12 rounds i would expect the person who runs most to go the distance rather
      Good question, well, when you say less experienced, by how much.

      I am kinda in that boat right now, I ain't sparred in like 12 years, but, I just sparred recently against guys who have been boxing regularly for the last two years, they obviously had more stamina than me, but, they're having difficulty sparring me because they haven't faced a guy with my guile. They're forced to think when they sparred me and thinking and trying to fight at the same time can be fatiguing while the more experienced fighter isn't expending as much energy, he's in a more relaxed state, and that makes up for not having good stamina.

      Atleast that's been my experience.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by vein View Post
        when u sparr u dont run, u box trainers do punch mits all day all night.
        Not this one trainer at my gym...He gets people on the mitts, shows them techniques and counters. I dont see him do a single cardio workout or hit the bags. He boxed amateur when he was younger, all he does is train people and he can still go the rounds. If anything it is quite frustrating, I'm over here doing my mile runs and spar with him only for him to out do me in the rounds.
        I guess its like swimming, you doggy paddle in the water exerting more energy thinking your going somewhere...while the guy beside you is freestyling so effortlessly and going the distance

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        • #5
          Originally posted by We want Floyd View Post
          Good question, well, when you say less experienced, by how much.

          I am kinda in that boat right now, I ain't sparred in like 12 years, but, I just sparred recently against guys who have been boxing regularly for the last two years, they obviously had more stamina than me, but, they're having difficulty sparring me because they haven't faced a guy with my guile. They're forced to think when they sparred me and thinking and trying to fight at the same time can be fatiguing while the more experienced fighter isn't expending as much energy, he's in a more relaxed state, and that makes up for not having good stamina.

          Atleast that's been my experience.
          I mean alot more experience, im talking about a couple years or so more.
          I always come in the first couple rounds keeping that in mind, but the more tired I get, the less I seem relaxed. I do believe that is the main reason why some people dont even run and still have the endurance in the ring. Relaxing, or could I be wrong

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          • #6
            Fighting is a unique workout the best way to train for it is sparring.

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            • #7
              relaxation may be a factor

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                Props for the relaxation comment. That's one thing, when you are tense, you have to realease muscles, then contract again in order to strike, block or move. It's a HUGE deal, I know because I have a problem with being tense while training and fighting and it affects my stamina big time. I can sprint or run with anyone. Another thing is pace, some guys have an inate ability to push you when they see you tiring. It's sooooo much easier to spar with a guy when I dictate the pace of the fight, when I don't, I get tired much quicker, and by tired I mean that my legs start going (another weakness of mine). My legs are strong as hell on the weights or running but sparring or especially groundfighting is a whole nother world

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                  Props for the relaxation comment. That's one thing, when you are tense, you have to realease muscles, then contract again in order to strike, block or move. It's a HUGE deal, I know because I have a problem with being tense while training and fighting and it affects my stamina big time. I can sprint or run with anyone. Another thing is pace, some guys have an inate ability to push you when they see you tiring. It's sooooo much easier to spar with a guy when I dictate the pace of the fight, when I don't, I get tired much quicker, and by tired I mean that my legs start going (another weakness of mine). My legs are strong as hell on the weights or running but sparring or especially groundfighting is a whole nother world
                  Yeah, its surprising how much of a difference it makes. I could ran laps all day around one of my trainer but If i get in the ring with him It'll look like I never ran a mile in my life. It's kind of a slap in the face telling me all my running was pointless. I try to pace myself when I spar, but even taking shots and trying to defend yourself can get you tired. I'm just like you Walt, strong on the weights and workout leg regularly, but sparring is different, sometimes I question if it is even beneficial to be lifting weights.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KiengKoopa View Post
                    Yeah, its surprising how much of a difference it makes. I could ran laps all day around one of my trainer but If i get in the ring with him It'll look like I never ran a mile in my life. It's kind of a slap in the face telling me all my running was pointless. I try to pace myself when I spar, but even taking shots and trying to defend yourself can get you tired. I'm just like you Walt, strong on the weights and workout leg regularly, but sparring is different, sometimes I question if it is even beneficial to be lifting weights.
                    I got off the weights (at least heavy ones) recently, all I do with weights now is deadlifts. I do tons of different pullups, dips, handstand pullups, and workouts with dumbells. All in a circuit fashion that includes legs and core work. I feel strong ass hell and I've started interval training with long sprints or something like 15 60 yards sprints. I've had some pretty good results, but I haven't sparred in 2 weeks cuz of business and my pregnant girl. I really can't wait to get back.

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