Does having a religion make you better at boxing?

[phallus]

All this is pure bull****. I'm glad you dropped in the word masses, because it was Karl Marx who said religion was an opium for the masses. His followers Moa and Stalin had no religion, but it did not stop them from being as brutal as a human can be. Their anti-religious agenda was similar to yours and quite....religiously followed! Mao even said religion was poison and forced peaceful Tibetan monks to fornicate with nuns in the streets. I wish I had been one of them monks and busted one of them cherries open, lol! On a more serious note, being anti-religious did not stop him from killing babies for population control and in general as a brutal dictator. To this day, Chinese people kill daughters the same way Hindu's in India. False religion is a problem, but so is any false doctrine as this example shows. They are both doing same thing for different reasons.


Stats will probably prove this to be true. I think this is because non-religious people are empty inside, and therefore do not have it in the bread basket. Faith will probably help you in the ring, or any situation where your life is on the line and you KNOW it means something. But accept Islam for your salvation anyway.

And all you have to do is read some of your posts such as the stuff you sent to Markeeta causing you to get banned to see that if you call yourself ****** you are insulting your own religion.

Your posts Would you like to suck on my lollipop? Or maybe I can by you a long ice cream lolly so you can put it in all the way right back to your throat and close your eyes as you enjoy the cream. What do you think? it'll depend on the weather because in the cold it'll just have to be the lolly.

LOL

pity, some of your boxing posts I agree with all the way.

Good thread, didn't someone who posted here and boxed for a while stopped boxing because he converted to Christianity. He made a couple of very long threads informing everyone that he was quitting boxing for good because he thought that hurting another human being was wrong or a sin.

I wonder what he would say about this.

Religion motivated him to stopped training and he won't even watch a boxing match.

It depends on the person, but that's a good question.

lots of people say they are a certain religion but don't really live it, i don't think we should take someone at their word when they say they are a believer and act like they are not. it does seem to me, though, that God gets the blame way too often for what men do, if some crazy guy thinks God told him to go shoot up a preschool or **** jodie foster it has nothing to do with God. history says the world has always been filled with violence, it always will be.

the guy that quit boxing because he didn't want to hurt people was superlightweight

[mspiegelo]

without getting into my own beliefs, here's my opinion on how religion can help boxers...

religion helps boxers because it is similar to the most effective training method in which the boxer submits to a higher power... a competant trainer. the best way to train is to have a trainer, who the athlete can trust, to tell him what to do, so that he does not have to think and only has to to execute. religion has the same submission to a higher power, in god, so it can serve as another tool to provide the boxer with courage.

Another thing that comes to mind is something that Teddy Atlas said in a training seminar I attended once in that Boxing is contrary to human nature, which is to avoid conflict. Because human beings are naturally programmed to run from danger and not approach danger head-on, many defense mechanisms and coping devices are employed to overcome the inherent fear of having to fight. This is not to trivialize religon devotion as a coping device, but merely to suggest some psychological insight into some of the unconscious factors that might accompany the religous nature of many boxers.

One other reason, is that people who are religious usually manage to stay out of trouble. boxing requires devotion and clean living, in order to be successful, and those who have religion are usually able to stay out of troube.

[JulioCesaChavez]

Being religious makes you into a better person. Especially if it is a semetic religion which is based on revealed scriptures. Without religion or even with a bogus belief in reincarnation, life has no meaning and there is nio point to it at all! think about this logically..

[Salty]

Being religious makes you into a better person. Especially if it is a semetic religion which is based on revealed scriptures. Without religion or even with a bogus belief in reincarnation, life has no meaning and there is nio point to it at all! think about this logically..

I find much more meaning in my life when I don't listen to some bull**** book, life is hear to be lived my friend. Each person has their own way of dealing with it, personally I don't want to spend my short time on this planet in a church or praying to something which doesn't listen. Being religious does not make you a better person, good values make you a better person. After all these "good values" taught by religious beliefs has lead to murders of pro-choice activists, death threats to the writer of books and suicide attacks.

Each person needs to decide what they want out of their lives, if religion helps some people good on them. But just because you don't believe in religion doesn't mean they have no value or meaning in their life. So how about you think about this logically.

[JulioCesaChavez]

I find much more meaning in my life when I don't listen to some bull**** book, life is hear to be lived my friend. Each person has their own way of dealing with it, personally I don't want to spend my short time on this planet in a church or praying to something which doesn't listen. Being religious does not make you a better person, good values make you a better person. After all these "good values" taught by religious beliefs has lead to murders of pro-choice activists, death threats to the writer of books and suicide attacks.

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We've already gone over this. Man's inhumanity to man has nothing to do with the presence of religion. Take it away and people will still find a reason to be ****s just like Chairman 'Religion is poison' Mao and Joseph ' religion is the opium of the masses' Stalin did! In hunter gatherer tribes through history, where they had no organised religion ther e were still murders etc. Bombs were not made my God, but by man.

Each person needs to decide what they want out of their lives, if religion helps some people good on them. But just because you don't believe in religion doesn't mean they have no value or meaning in their life. So how about you think about this logically

They don't. whcih is why so many atheists top themselves and think they will go to sleep or Disneyland! Without any faith, their lives are empty shells and this is a fact as there is no MEANING to life. This is why they don't have the balls to hang in there with all the top fighters who are almost always extremely religious people. Even the ones who don't seem to practise devoutly will have strong religious beliefs. Atheism is a characteristic of a geek or loner, not a fighter.

[Trrmo]

Being religious makes you into a better person. Especially if it is a semetic religion which is based on revealed scriptures. Without religion or even with a bogus belief in reincarnation, life has no meaning and there is nio point to it at all! think about this logically..

Being religious does not make you a better person. Anyone could see this. Religion is full of hipocrisy. Look at the history of religion, horrific methods of torture during the inquisition, burning alive and killing. Such as scientists Copernicus for demonstrating the earth moved around the sun, or Gallileo. Or the history of sexual abuse by priests is incredible. The money scamming done by evangelists such as Jimmy Swaggert or the Bakers. Other fundamentalist religious people promote terrorism and violence. Even people such as the protestant reformer Martin Luther was a *** hater and promoted violence towards them.

And as far as the semetic religions go, who decided which of the scriptures (thousands of different scriptures existed, and most are not included in the bible) were god inspired or which were phony? It was done at meetings of priests sometimes hundreds of years later than Jesus´ time. And then they only did it by vote. (such things as belief reincarnation were only decided by vote as reincarnation was accepted by some early christians)

And of course the writings of the New Testament are rejected by ***s, the ***s and Christians reject the Koran as authentic. The Mormons have there own absurb later version of revealed scripture.

Then who decides on the correct translation of the scriptures? considering the old testament was mostly written without vowels, and the new testament with virtually no punctuation?

Even to this day the amount of the official accepted books in the Bible is disputed by different christian denominations.

The ancient scripture accepted today is also full of contradiction and inconsistency. Contains, adultery, genocide, ****, mass murder and submission of women just to name few.

I dont accept it as true, I dont believe in your god, and I dont think that you need to have a semitic or other religion to have meaning in your life. What religion has been about is power and control over the people, even the Pope recently said that there needs to be more obedience to the church. I think it takes more courage to take responsibility for your own life and actions than submitting to an enforced ignorance dictated by the church.

[KostyaTszyu44]

Being religious makes you into a better person. Especially if it is a semetic religion which is based on revealed scriptures. Without religion or even with a bogus belief in reincarnation, life has no meaning and there is nio point to it at all! think about this logically..

good post........

[KostyaTszyu44]

It does contradict islam, islam after all accepts the old testament therefor accepts that the world was created in 7 days. Well if religion can't be blamed for man's barbaric nature, who the **** can? After all God created us in his own image, must be one sadistic ****er with the kinds of scum in this world. It is an external source of faith and happiness, your not dwelling up the feelings of faith and safety from within yourself, your feeling that because some man in the clouds is looking out for you and if something happens you get to go up there and drink peyote with him all day. It provides a crutch for people who can not deal with the harsh reality which is planet earth.

heres where you are wrong

many catholics, ***s and ******s believe that some parts of the bible, torah, koran etc are open to interpretation as this was a different time

7 days could mean 7 days as decided by god, which could be any amount of "human" time

god created us in his own peaceful and perfect image yes, but then humans were corrupted by original sin and therefore every human is tainted and inherently evil, even babies and jesus/god is the path to salvation

i could go on with what else you said wrong........

[Salty]

They don't. whcih is why so many atheists top themselves and think they will go to sleep or Disneyland! Without any faith, their lives are empty shells and this is a fact as there is no MEANING to life. This is why they don't have the balls to hang in there with all the top fighters who are almost always extremely religious people. Even the ones who don't seem to practise devoutly will have strong religious beliefs. Atheism is a characteristic of a geek or loner, not a fighter.

No the reason why most of the top fighters are religious is that they were also generally from poor socioeconomic backgrounds. These poorer areas are usually highly religious, so it does go hand in hand, they aren't better boxers because of it, they were just raised that way. Aetheism is an informed choice and the very essence of a fighter, after all we are challenging the beliefs that billions of people around the world hold.

[The_Visitation]

They don't. whcih is why so many atheists top themselves and think they will go to sleep or Disneyland! Without any faith, their lives are empty shells and this is a fact as there is no MEANING to life. This is why they don't have the balls to hang in there with all the top fighters who are almost always extremely religious people. Even the ones who don't seem to practise devoutly will have strong religious beliefs. Atheism is a characteristic of a geek or loner, not a fighter.

You don't need to believe in God to have meaning in your life and believe that life does have meaning. That meaning just doesn't have to include a God and an afterlife. Your caricature of atheists is ignorant bull****.