No way ,
for push ups u use triceps and chest.
for pull ups u use ur lats, back and biceps
Like that other guy mentioned u should do lat pulldowns.
Well hey for some reason after i finished increasing my pullups my push ups increased by 20 and got me to 100... and i hadn't been doing them... i think they help each other...
they do help with each other a bit by balancing your strength. Since one muscle group cant get vastly stronger than the opposed muscle group or else youd be very unbalanced and prone to injuries. You never see a guy bench 400 lbs and only be able to deadlift 200 because your body will 'stall' itself to keep the dumbass that only benches without strengthening his back from hurting himself.
if u really cant start doing them with assistance on your feet. just put chair or have a friend assist you, most ppl in the gym start using the pulldown machine instead because its easier,
but nothing beats the good old school pull ups for lat strength , which i imagine you intend to use for punching power, which is a good idea.
Thanks guys. I guess, I'll try to sneak in afew pullups when nobody is looking, LoL. Other than that, I work out my back with my routine and have a strong back. I feel like it's more arm related than back, that I can't pull myself up. So I guess I'll just keep working on doing the actual pullups, even if I only **** out 3 at a time, just to build it up better.
i started with chin ups first until i could do about 10, then i moved to pull ups, but i did what most people have said already, just do them every day.
When you feel like your coming to failure, if you've got somene arround ask them just to lift your legs a tiny bit - you'll be amased how many more you can eek out when assited.
Also, you can try doing them on the negative - Stand on a chair or something to lift yourself up.... then take your weight yourself on the way down.
Ultimately you just have to keep pounding them and eventually you'll improve.
EDIT:
I just noticed 'David' gave the exact same advice. Oh well.
Well first you got to understand what muscles pull-ups work (Biceps, Forearms, Lats, and Traps). Strengthen your biceps, work on your traps by doing shrugs which will also help on your grip(which is 1 of the most important parts) and shrugs also increase the strength of your forearms. Within 4 weeks you should be able to do 3-5 more pull-ups than you started out doing. Good luck
Ok so my pullup area is pretty weak. I feel weak going to gym and barely can do any while these other guys do them like they are nothing. What's the best workout to do to get your arms built or strong for pullups? Should I do more of the bar that you pull behind your head? I'm trying to do the pullups that you have your knuckles over the bar as opposed to under where it's more bicep related. I want to be able to go to the pullups and do em GOOD. I'm pretty good at everything else, but pullups, I suck at for most part.
yo Pac, check this out...pull ups involves the largest muscle mass on your body.. the back! start from the source. for 3 weeks, try some rowing...not too heavy, just to strengthen the lats (latissimus dorsi) barbells are better, cause you are practicing your grip while your at it. for those 3 weeks don't even look at the chin up bars, let alone get near them. Trust me dude, in due time. Chin-ups/pulls ups is the one thing you can't cheat at, once you get on the bar...you're there! Now check this out, when you do get on the bars, have someone spot you, cross your legs behind you and they just rest your sneakers on thier hands, that will create leverage, taking some pressure off the arms. Your grip should be a little past shoulder width apart. When you strengthen your lats, arms ect. start with just 5. rest for 20 seconds..get up there and do 5 more. rest 20 seconds get up there and do 3...rest 20, do 3...rest 20, do 3...
Listen, every day in Airborne School in Ft. Bragg, N.C., you gotta do pulls after breakfast, pull ups after lunch..after dinner, and everytime you are passing the bars! That was the rule. We did tons and tons of pulls up cause you need upper body strength to pull the risers on the parachutes. And when your up there 1,000 ft above the ground, the chute is full of air pressure, you gotta really pull on them.
But once you have strengthened your lats... you find Pull ups easier. not for nothing, but I did 28 straight one time. There was a time when 11 was my max (7th grade). it's all in the back, that's where the power comes from, the arms just balance and support. take three chairs, make a tri angle and do wide arm push-ups. Your working the chest, but the lats play too!
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